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Game 125: Miami Marlins @ Arizona Diamondbacks, Game Thread and Ichthyomancy

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Current Series

Marlins lead the series 2-0

Mon 08/20 WP: Mark Buehrle (11 - 11)
LP: Joe Saunders (6 - 10)
12 - 3 win
Tue 08/21 WP: Chad Gaudin (2 - 1)
SV: Steve Cishek
LP: Sam Demel (0 - 1)
6 - 5 win

Miami Marlins
@ Arizona Diamondbacks

Wednesday, Aug 22, 2012, 3:40 PM EDT
Chase Field

Jacob Turner vs Tyler Skaggs

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 95.

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Wed 08/22 9:40 PM EDT

The Miami Marlins have had two exciting games so far in this series versus the Arizona Diamondbacks, the latest resulting in a 6-5 victory in extra innings over the D'Backs after being down 5-0 to start the game. The Fish have had all sorts of excitement in this series, and the first game of this doubleheader will hold even more intrigue for Marlins fans.

This is because the first game of the doubleheader will feature the debut of pitching prospect Jacob Turner in a Marlins uniform! Turner will make his first start for the Fish today against fellow top pitching prospect Tyler Skaggs.

I should mention that today's games are also of interest because both of them will be this week's Double Ichthy Points games for Ichthyomancy! So huge stakes abound in this doubleheader!

Pitching Matchup

Proj Win% Proj ERA FIP ERA Marlins Diamondbacks ERA FIP Proj ERA Proj Win%
.381 5.09 7.88 8.03 Turner Skaggs --- --- --- ---

Jacob Turner will make his debut for the Marlins after putting up five rather unspectacular starts in Triple-A New Orleans. Yes, the ERA was good, sitting at 1.98, but stranding 91.2 percent of your baserunners will do that to a run figure. Turner's 4.30 FIP was pedestrian to say the least, and while his age still bodes well for future seasons, his most recent performances in Triple-A do not bode well for immediate success. It does not help that Turner's been bashed around in the majors in his six starts thus far. Overall, we should temper our expectations for what Turner can do, while at the same time being excited about an almost certain future member of the Miami Marlins pitching staff.

Tyler Skaggs is also going to be a future member of the Diamondbacks staff. He will make his major league debut this afternoon as well, though his is coming off of a good season in 2012. Skaggs threw 69 2/3 innings in Double-A this year and put up an impressive 2.84 ERA with a decent 3.60 FIP. He was then moved to Triple-A and put up similar numbers there. His MO seems to be strikeouts, as he has whiffed 23.1 percent of batters faced this season and 27.0 percent for his minor league career.

Hopefully we get a matchup between a control pitcher versus a strikeout artist. What's more likely is that we're going to see some growing pains for two young, talented pitchers; both Turner and Skaggs are 21 years old and both ranked very highly in Baseball America's top 100 prospects list this season.


Order Player Proj wOBA vs. LHP
1 Gorkys Hernandez .271
2 Donovan Solano .297
3 Jose Reyes .350
4 Carlos Lee .349
5 Giancarlo Stanton .401
6 Justin Ruggiano .348
7 John Buck .297
8 Donnie Murphy .297

Backing up Turner in his first game as a member of the Fish will be the above lineup, once again filled with a cavalcade of horrific hitters surrounding four legitimate players. The farce that is batting Gorkys Hernandez leadoff continues due to his speed, though he admittedly had a nice game last night with two hits. Still, Hernandez is in the spot typically occupied by Emilio Bonifacio, who is day-to-day following "right knee pain" that forced him out of the game by the second inning last night. Solano, Buck, and Murphy sit around the quartet of Reyes, Lee, Stanton, and Ruggiano as the only real hitters on the team at this stage.


- For more on today's starting pitcher, Jacob Turner, check out my synopsis of the good and the bad of the Marlins' latest top pitching prospect.

- Also, Eric W. warns us to temper our expectations on the young hurler. He is still 21 years old and, given his lack of dominance at any level, shouldn't be facing major league talent, but with the Marlins' well dry until 2014, the team is at least giving him a look before potentially leaving him in Triple-A next year, depending on his performance.

- Keep in mind that today's first game is not televised by Fox Sports Florida. For those of you who have subscriptions to (yay!), Arizona is broadcasting the game, and you'll just have to put up with the Diamondbacks' crew. I've heard Daron Sutton and Mark Grace are decent to listen to and Sutton has a varying use of sabermetrics, perhaps much like Rich Waltz.

- If you don't have but you have a Gameday subscription with radio access or happen to live in south Florida, the game will be on in all radio feeds, including WAXY (I believe that is 790 The Ticket) and WAQI, the Spanish broadcast.

- This is one of two games today that are Double Ichthy Points games for Ichthyomancy. You know the rules, but here they are again:

1) All correct picks are worth double their usual points!

2) All incorrect non-attendance picks are worth -1 point. If there is no avaialble Hero of the Game, no one will be penalized.

3) If you make a light-enough pick that is still reasonable, I may consider it a 0-point pick for AAB, thus allowing you to "pseudo-pass" on making an AAB selection. But if you get that light pick wrong, it's -1 point. If it's too light (Marlins > 20 AB! Marlins >1 H!), your entire selection is invalid

Good luck to those making selections today!

Bold Prediction: Diamondbacks def. Marlins 7-5