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Open Thread and Ichthyomancy: Marlins at Astros (9/15)

Tiny by mike42 on in News

The series finale. The Fish need a win to avoid a split. Andy Pettitte takes the hill against Jason Vargas. Big ballgame for young Vargas. Maybe he'll pitch like a young Pettitte.

It's once again time for ichthyomancy. If you've been playing all season, please make your picks today. If you've never played before - start today. It doesn't cost anything, it's fun, and it's free.>).

Don't forget to make your leader/award picks in the thread below.

Here's today's ichthyomancy pick table:

Person Player Attendance AAB
Carolina Encarnacion 31,255 Marlins: 7 R
Colombo259 Vargas 32,700
Craig
Danielfred1235 Cabrera 30,550 Vargas: 3 BB issued, 1 drawn
Dex
Double B SP
Fishfan24 Cabrera 33,333 SP: No hitter
Jsprt05 Delgado 33,400 Cabrera H = Vargas K
Seamusfurr Lo Duca 32,009
StrandedX02 Delgado 34,627 Vargas: 6 IP, 2 R
Wiggins Vargas 37,456 Vargas: 4 H, 8 K

Make your picks and discuss...

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Delgado
34,627
Vargas: 6 IP, 2 R
Cause all we know is falling...

by StrandedX02 on Sep 15, 2005 2:08 PM EDT   0 recs

By the way...
I was the 1 AJ vote in the poll on the side. :P
Cause all we know is falling...

by StrandedX02 on Sep 15, 2005 3:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not a bad pick
I think it's what's going to happen.

I just can't believe that it's even debateable.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 4:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Picks
Gotta leave early again - don't have the soap opera without me!

Vargas stops sucking and shows Pettitte what's what.  
37,456
Vargas gives up four hits, Ks eight.

by wiggins on Sep 15, 2005 2:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh
at least he remained true to his nature

by craig on Sep 15, 2005 9:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh.
I didn't have time, jerk.  I didn't realize how late I was.  I've updated it myself before, though - I'm a BIG BOY!

by wiggins on Sep 16, 2005 12:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cool Standings
The current Cool Standings have the Marlins running a close third behind the Phils and Astros for the Wild Card. This is going to be a heck of a finish.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 3:43 PM EDT   0 recs

What I'm watching for
It sounds like Jack talked to Vargas about "going after hitters." I'm taking that to mean that Vargas needs to increase his strike-to-ball ratio and that we'll need to keep an eye on his pitch count.

That's all from me, Captain Obvious, for now.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 3:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Picks
Fear the Mig.

30,550.

Vargas walks 3 and draws a walk at the plate.

Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 4:38 PM EDT   0 recs

Picks
Delgado 33,400 Cabrera hits = Vargas K's
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 4:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Attendance
33,333 for today.
Fear The Mig, Believe in the DTrain
They don't suck.

by fishfan24 on Sep 15, 2005 5:12 PM EDT   0 recs

picks
Encarnacion
31,255
Marlins score seven runs

by Carolina on Sep 15, 2005 6:04 PM EDT   0 recs

picks
LoDuca
32,009
Barry Bonds hits two homers.
"I'm not as deep and complicated as people think." -Mike Tyson

by seamusfurr on Sep 15, 2005 6:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Pettitte's shoes look funny
Oh - and tonight would be a good night for the Rally Marlin to make an appearance (assuming that we need a rally at some point).

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Ok Mike, your statement just made me think
of something, what exactly is your definition of "rally" in a baseball game. Do you have to be behind in a game to rally, or is it sumply when a team scores a few runs in an inning?
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

simply*
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well that's true too
I was thinking a come from behind victory would be nice.

But an all around hit parade and game long dominating performance would be nice too.

I'd just like a W tonight.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto
But to clarify, I want a W that doesn't come from Wiggins's name (well, both W's together wouldn't be bad either, I suppose).
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What's Up With Gameday?
Usually it's ahead of MLB.TV (which, BTW, I get Rich and Tommy tonight), but tonight it's slow. Anybody know what gives?
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 8:33 PM EDT   0 recs

2nd inning "rally"
lets go bitches!! I want some runs!!!
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Watch Your Mouth!
My virgin friggin' ears!
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 8:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Baseball in september
is no place for virgin anything!!
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Uh huh
So all the mom stuff was a lie I guess.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I Ain't Sayin' Nuffin'
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 8:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

really?
you must get that trait from your dad's side of the family (your mom is quite loud)
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

virgin?
You're allowed to curse on the Innernets, you know.
"I'm not as deep and complicated as people think." -Mike Tyson

by seamusfurr on Sep 15, 2005 9:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if its not too late...
give me

player: vargas

attendance: 32,700

AAB: bottom of order- 1/2+ fish RBIs

Jeremy Hermida: the only fashionable man-crush.

by colombo259 on Sep 15, 2005 8:36 PM EDT   0 recs

I want a LoDuca Granny!!!
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

awww!!!!!
Im effing pissed
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Someone 'Splain Me...
... why the FUCK we have Lo Duca in tonight? Hell, Treanor can GIDP just as easily, and he has more speed. Ugh, that inning was just disgusting.
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 8:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Because LoDuca is a warrior
Or a tough guy or something.

And he probably begged Jack a lot.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Its because
The pitchers secretly think Treanor is a sucky pitch caller
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Are you guessing or is that true?
The team ERA with LoDuca behind the plate is about 1 run lower than when Treanor is back there.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I mean
I havnt talked to the pitchers and got their opinions or anything, but from the quotes and things I've heard it sounds like LoDuca is a better pitch caller (maybe thats why Treanor was in the minors for so long) and the pitchers wont say anything to Treanor because they dont want to hurt his feelings.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I suspect that you're right
A veteran on the bench would have been nice.

Treanor seems like a nice enough guy, but we're here to win ballgames - not to have a tea party.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mike DeFelice would be nice right now....
I think he bowed out of the 2nd catcher race late in spring training because he and Treanor became friends and he couldnt be responsible for making Matt go back to the minors.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Commercials
How do these Red Cross commercials work? Does the Red Cross have to pay for them? If so, they should stop running them because they're on all the time. They should use the TV money to help people.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:48 PM EDT   0 recs

I think they're like
provided by the government at no cost.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Still
If the gov't is paying for them, they should put that money towards helping people.

I'm hoping that FSN (and the other networks) are donating the time (effectively out of their own pockets).

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Its not too stupid that the government is paying
If they make more money off of the commercials than they are spending
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They have to have reached the point...
of diminishing returns. By this point I think that most people who have televisions are aware of what's going on.

For me personally, I've already given/pledged the money that I can afford to give. Maybe if the commercials were aimed more at telling you what you could do non-monetarily they'd get more out of them at this point. But by now I think everyone knows how to give money if they want to.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course your right Michael
But Uncle Sam ordered me to curse you and your opinions.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's cool
Enough quasi-politics.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lets define politics
Poly= many

tics= you know what those are

Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope
Offered by the TV stations free of charge so they can fulfill their "public service" obligations and run infomercials all night long.
"I'm not as deep and complicated as people think." -Mike Tyson

by seamusfurr on Sep 15, 2005 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah - PSAs
How could I forget.

Thanks.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugh
Easley makes a big error.

I miss Gonzalez. The real Gonzalez.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Alex Gonzalez is overrated
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

depends what your measuring
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Other than being cheaper
How is Easley better?

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lets see.....
Alex Gonzalez has 16 fielding errors in 367 attempts....95.8 Fielding Percentage

Damion Easley has 3 fielding errors in 73 attempts....96 Fielding Percentage

Im torn....

Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not buying that
A - Fielding percentage is weak. Alex has much better range and gets to way more balls

B - The sample size is small.

Just watch them play. Granted, Alex is having (arguably) his worst year in the field. But even on the plays that Easley does make, he looks awkward.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Alex makes nice plays
that doesnt mean anything besides he flashes the glove (and this is not alwasy a good thing)
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and when they throw in all the mumbo jumbo
into the Fielding % formula....they both have a 97.4
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The 3rd inning has screwed us over
a lot in this series
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Good night
Another tough loss....I actually think the Marlins just choked the last 2 games of the series to the Astros. Now were behind the 'Stros again...you win the 1st two games and then cough up the last two...im disgusted
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

The offense really needs to pick it up
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont care who is pitching
What makes an offense good is their ability to produce no matter who is on the mound
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry, I've been flipping
I'll keep an eye out for that.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG
A Willingham sighting.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:47 PM EDT   0 recs

* nice effort from Vargas
Better than I'd hoped.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gotta score in this inning
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's important to get to the Astros bullpen
before the 8th.  They aren't as porous as ours but they are not real good.

by craig on Sep 15, 2005 9:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

excuse mu language....but FUCK!!!!!!!!!
This team hits into way too many double plays....i hate them for their inability to do anything with men on.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:51 PM EDT   0 recs

my*
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oo come on
I see swearing all the time on the other SBNation sites...i was just expressing some emotion.
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree with you
but am i offending anyone?
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know
Maybe there are a bunch of underage lurkers.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ok
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 9:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dark dirt
Is the dirt always so dark right in front of home plate at Minute Maid? I haven't noticed it before. I wonder if the 'Stros made it extra wet before the game to slow down bunts.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 9:59 PM EDT   0 recs

No
it does look like a mud pit

by craig on Sep 15, 2005 10:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sending Out A Prayer...
... for the Rally Marlin. Please, please, PLEASE, Rally Marlin, show up tonight.
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 10:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Lets go Rally Marlin
do your job tonight!
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 10:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Keep Going Rally Marlin!!!
We believe!!!
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Delgado grounds out on ball 4!!!
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

SHHH
We mustn't demand all 3 runs back on consecutive ABs. The Rally Marlin isn't perfect. As long as the Rally Marlin gets us back into the lead, then its job has been done.
Eliminate and abolish redundancy!

by danielfred1235 on Sep 15, 2005 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Mig does not suck
As Summer Wheatley's boy toy says.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 10:06 PM EDT   0 recs

A fan throws back the ball
the only problem is, the ball hit the wall and stayed inside the park

by craig on Sep 15, 2005 10:07 PM EDT   0 recs

I noticed that....
I think the center fielder through the ball up there and then the fan threw it back...
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 10:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Disgusting
They're like Cub fans.

by mike42 on Sep 15, 2005 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

damn those cub fans
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 10:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They normally don't
but that is not the regular CF

It's a pretty high toss

by craig on Sep 15, 2005 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

im new..
so i have been reading this site for a few weeks, decided to post...watchin the game...the marlins are causing me heart problems and anxiety and im only 20...miguel is my hero forever

by dantheman on Sep 15, 2005 10:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Uhhh ohhh Huggy.....
looks like your namesake is being threatened
Mmmm....Fish Sticks

by Jsprtold on Sep 15, 2005 10:09 PM EDT to parent up