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It's Chum Bucket time.

Today we have some things of interest happening in the world of baseball.  First off, the Mitchell report is due out today at around 2:00 p.m.  However, the pre-game activities will start about 1:00 p.m.

The other thing that is going on today is the continual voting in some radio station poll that Colombo clued us in on.  Normally, I would just blow by this and proceed on.  But this time it is different, the Marlins have a dog in the hunt.  So help out with your vote, if you can.

Have a Great Day!

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I did my part and voted
I voted for Samson out of solidarity with my fellow suffering Marlins fans on this blog, but in all honesty, there were much bigger A-holes this year. As far as I'm concerned, it'd be hard to beat Mike "Dog-Killer" Vick or Nick "Not Gonna Coach Alabama" Saban for top honors.

But as weaselly as Saban's departure was, I think Petrino quitting on the Falcons is even worse. That one really takes the cake for gutless coaches.

by Fishcrazy on Dec 13, 2007 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Just started reading the Mitchell Report...
<quote>Also in June 2000, a clubhouse attendant found a paper bag containing six vials of steroids and over two dozen syringes in the locker of a pitcher with the Florida Marlins; </quote>

That didn't take long... like 14 pages in...

by dan 2.0 on Dec 13, 2007 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

The whole story (apologies for formatting)
C. Discovery of Steroids in Florida Marlins Player's Locker, June 2000
In late June 2000, a clubhouse attendant with the Florida Marlins brought a paper
bag to the club's athletic trainers that had been found in the locker of Marlins pitcher Ricky
Bones.  The bag contained over two dozen syringes, six vials of injectable medications -
stanozolol and nandrolone decanoate, two anabolic steroids that are sold under the names
Winstrol and Deca-Durabolin, respectively - and a page of handwritten instructions on how to
administer the drugs.  Soon thereafter, the athletic trainers returned the bag and its contents to
Bones at his request.
Bones is now employed by a minor league affiliate of the New York Mets and so
was required by the Commissioner to meet with us.  In his interview, he acknowledged the
incident and explained that he had been self-administering steroids and painkillers pursuant to
prescriptions that he obtained from a physician in his hometown in Puerto Rico.  At the time,
Bones had a degenerative hip condition that later led him to retire from baseball and, in 2003, to
undergo dual hip replacement surgery.
While this incident occurred before the 2002 Basic Agreement, baseball's drug
policy at the time nevertheless:  expressly prohibited "[t]he possession, sale or use of any illegal
drug or controlled substance by Major League players and personnel"; expressly included
anabolic steroids among the substances that were subject to this prohibition; required any player
who was taking a drug pursuant to a physician's prescription "to notify the team physician of this
fact and of the drug(s) prescribed"; and required clubs to report "any information concerning
drug use by a player" to the Commissioner's Office.
The athletic trainers' initial reaction not to report the discovery of steroids in a
player's possession did not comply with this policy.  The next day, however, the matter was
brought to the attention of Dave Dombrowski, the Marlins' general manager, who immediately
reported it to the Commissioner's Office, which said its staff would "take it from here."
According to Bones, several weeks after the incident he was asked by the Players
Association to attend a brief meeting with Dr. Joel Solomon of the Players Association and
another physician, likely Dr. Robert Millman.  The physicians reviewed the pros and cons of
using steroids and asked whether Bones was having any problems in his personal life.  Bones
said that his family life was fine.  No physical examination was conducted by either physician.  
Bones also was subjected to a "reasonable cause" urine test several months after the incident.
Bones never heard that the test showed steroids in his system and therefore assumes that it was
negative.
Rob Manfred confirmed that after he learned about the incident he contacted Gene
Orza of the Players Association and sought his agreement to "reasonable cause" drug testing of
Bones.  Manfred did not advise anyone in the security department about the incident because it
was "heading down the reasonable cause testing path."

by dan 2.0 on Dec 13, 2007 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor guy
Yeah, I know, steroids bad. But Bones' hips were apparently rotting, so I don't really blame the guy.

However, I must say that I'm surprised Brady Anderson isn't mentioned. (Or maybe he is...I haven't actually read the report, just the news summaries.)

by Fishcrazy on Dec 13, 2007 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Marlins (any tenure) named:
I haven't read close enough to note who, if any, here have evidence of use while on the Marlins.  Just that these are people named as users (buyers, really, that's what the report details) and also played at one point for the Marlins.

Josias Manzanillo
Gregg Zaun
Ron Villone
Paul LoDuca (who has a ton of dirt on him; not to mention it says that he roped Gagne into steroids)
Kevin Brown (also brought in by LoDuca)
Matt Herges
Chad Allen
Ismael Valdez

And there's one big story (a la the one posted above) about a Blue Jays bullpen catcher trying to use the Marlins to sneak marijuana and steroids into the US by putting a bag in with Florida's luggage, but the Marlins' equipment manager saw the duffle (with a damn padlock on it) and busted him.  So score one for us.

by dan 2.0 on Dec 13, 2007 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

He was the bullpen catcher for the Expos...
and he also said this..

"After the criminal process had ended, Hallinan and his deputy, Martin Maguire,
traveled to Miami to interview Perez. Perez explained that during his time as a bullpen catcher
for the Florida Marlins, between 1998 until 2001, two players asked if he could obtain steroids
for them. After he was successful in doing so, word spread and he became a source for players
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to acquire steroids and other drugs. Perez alleged that he had witnessed widespread use of
steroids and other drugs. According to Hallinan's memo, Perez told baseball officials ". . . that
virtually every player on the Marlins was `doing something' ranging from steroids and greenies,
to marijuana, etc. He also claimed that every pitcher in Montreal's bullpen was on some form of
steroid.""

by Fluxuation on Dec 13, 2007 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh...
marijuana. That must be it...they were on nothing more than marijuana.

by Fishcrazy on Dec 13, 2007 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sidebar fun...
I get where the difference comes in, but this is just funny...

by dan 2.0 on Dec 13, 2007 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

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