Marlins Officially (Unnecessarily) Bring Back Oviedo
Editor's note: I apologize for the radio silence yesterday. I just started up school again and have a major test on Friday, so it might be a little quiet here this week. I did feel the need to talk about this, however
As Terrence Hunley pointed out yesterday, the Miami Marlins have agreed to a one-year deal with the former Leo Nunez, Juan Oviedo. We all saw this coming a long time back, and Fish Stripes was on it from the beginning. Here's the last thing I said about Oviedo and the prospects of the Fish re-signing him:
However, there is simply no argument for the Oviedo blunder, even without the retrospective knowledge of his legal problems. There should be no reason that the Marlins are interested in retaining Oviedo for 2012. As a solid but unspectacular reliever, he should not be earning anywhere close to what he would have earned as a "closer." And when the Marlins signed Bell, it should have ended any reason for the Marlins to require Oviedo's "proven closer" credentials. Yet the Marlins tendered an offer to him last night, assuring that he would either stay with the team in 2012 or be traded.
Sure enough, Oviedo earned himself the estimated $6 million that he would have gotten in arbitration despite the fact that he is not a great reliever and will not be occupying the closer role this season. Not only is it likely that he would not have made back his salary for the Marlins had he been the closer, but now he is almost guaranteed to fall short of the salary the Marlins will be paying him since he will be working as a setup man or worse.
The move is especially puzzling given the already decent depth the bullpen is currently boasting. Take a look at the Marlins' depth chart in terms of their bullpen:Presumably the Fish will go with the traditional seven-man bullpen and 12-man pitching staff. If that is the case, the team will have to force out one of their young pitchers in return for playing Oviedo. In this particular instance, it looks as if Jose Ceda is the odd man out despite his strong stuff. But how much worse would Ceda be than Oviedo? Here are two projection systems' thoughts on the two pitchers:
| Player | Bill James ERA | Bill James FIP | RotoChamps ERA | RotoChamps FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Juan Oviedo | 3.70 | 4.15 | 3.75 | 3.85 |
| Jose Ceda | 3.00 | 3.05 | 4.05 | 4.53 |
Now consider if Oviedo and Ceda both pitched 50 innings (Ceda likely would have thrown fewer innings, but if he had stayed healthy and somewhat effective, this number would not have been out of reach). The difference between a 4.29 ERA (the average between Ceda's RotoChamps projected ERA and FIP) and 3.80 (the average of Nunez's projections) is almost three runs in 50 innings pitched. On average, that may be about a third of a win. The Marlins spent $6 million for a gain of depht approximately a third of a win in 2012. The concept simply makes no sense.
Once again, this further stamps the problem that this team has with regards to relief pitching. It is entirely possible that the Marlins are among the most backwards teams in baseball in terms of statistics, and the fact that they were so willing to pay $6 million in arbitration to a pitcher whose only claim to fame was converting save opportunities shows a distinct lack of insight in terms of analysis. Even the casual fan has tired of Oviedo;s inconsistencies in his attempts to close games, and when looking at his numbers for the last three seasons, it is difficult to say that Nunez has anywhere to go but down going forward. Yes, the deal is only one year, but it is an awful waste of $6 million and it exposes an area of analysis and player personnel where the Marlins are clearly weak.
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Trade?
There’s gotta be a ballclub looking for relievers somewhere, we need to trade Oviedo and load up on prospects, our Minor League is sucked dry.
by MarlinFn#56 on Jan 18, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who would trade legitimate prospects for a mediocre reliever?
He has no trade value, he isn’t worth his contract and is not a good player, so no team would be interested.
Fish Stripes, a Florida Marlins blog
Author, Baseball Prospectus Fantasy
by Michael Jong on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Diamonds in the rough
Have been found before. Andrew Miller was supposedly gonna be a star, that worked out great didn’t it? I don’t see why it can’t work the other way around.
by MarlinFn#56 on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sure he could have a good year... but no team will pay 6 million to find out.
except for us. they must know something we dont, because our front office is too cheap to do this.
There are still unsigned relievers by the dozens
Cheaper, and as good as Oviedo. Who would have make a trade for Oviedo and his 6 millions tag price?
For 2012 season: ALEX RIOS is my new TONY PENA.
by JofpGallagher on Jan 18, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
NOW salary matters?
We can pay 4 million to get Oviedo our of our hair, just so long as we get good minor leaguers in return.
by MarlinFn#56 on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
4 million is a lot of money, yes it matters.
leo nunez is not worth good minor leagers if he must be payed 6 million a year.
Heck, he isn't worth any prospects even if we pay
Remember what we got for Cantu at the deadline. Think a bit less than that, even if we pay a tad.
Fish Stripes, a Florida Marlins blog
Author, Baseball Prospectus Fantasy
by Michael Jong on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions





















