Jeff Conine on possibly trading Hanley Ramirez

by craig on Jul 26, 2011 9:01 AM EDT in News and Rumors

Jeff Conine offered his opinion on a trade of Hanley Ramirez.

When asked if he would trade Ramirez, Conine said: "If it were up to me, probably."

Conine, a fan favorite and face of the franchise nicknamed Mr. Marlin, told The LeBatard Show he gets frustrated by Ramirez "on a nightly basis" and added "there are some nights where [Ramirez] doesn’t try as hard as he should."

I understand where Niner is coming from, watching Hanley over the years has been incredibly frustrating. He seems to be a player who can turn on or turnoff greatness like it was a light switch. And it is hard to understand why he doesn't keep the switch in the on position permanently. But I believe that the not trying hard was more prevalent in past years than this season. It appears to me he is actually trying, at least at the plate. It is just that he wasn't getting good results earlier. Now routine throws to first where he seems to go lackadaisical are another matter.

Hanley's attitude will always be in question and he brought that on himself. But this season, it really appears he is putting forth an effort. All of that said, there is still room for improvement.

Hanley could be a Hall of Famer, it is just a matter of whether he wants to achieve his potential or not. But at this point, there is no way the Marlins will trade him or should. Now when 2014 rolls around and he is set to earn $16 million that may be a different story.

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Trading Hanley

I believe that Hanley should be traded provided we can make a good deal for him. No more Maybins and Millers. Hanley is playing like the aging actor in A Star is Born and he is clearly being upstaged by Gaby, Mike, and Logan. He makes fielding gems going to his left, stands up and throws the ball away. He does not move to his right.

We can play Boni at shortstop and find third base fillers like Dobbs, Helms and Dominguez. or, possibly, Martinez.

I say trade him now while he still has an undeserved reputation.

by BarryID on Jul 26, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions

Craig, the title is misleading

it makes it sound as if a trade already happened.

as for the article, the marlins simply can’t trade him. he’s the face of the franchise, and the most talented guy we have. cant trade something like that.

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by Gatorfan4life on Jul 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah, it'd be franchise suicide

Just from a PR perspective, they can’t afford to trade any core member unless it’s part of an unlikely blockbuster (e.g., Anibal or Nolasco part of a deal for Upton or Rasmus).

You think we would’ve learned from the Cabrera debacle. Trading for prospects is a crap shoot. You lock up elite talent for as long as you can afford it. (The FO blew it big time by not buying out Miggy early – something they should try and do with Stanton this off-season.) I don’t see anybody banging the “Regardless of how the trade worked out, thank goodness the Marlins traded Cabrera due to his weight issues, bad attitude, subpar 3B defense, and shoddy work ethic” drum. Why pound that drum for Hanley now?

Most likely, this was just Conine’s own thoughts and not a representation of the FO. God I hope not.

by dgriot on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Conine isn't the only one to feel that way.

Keith Hernandez, one of the Mets announcers, really hates Hanley for his perceived laziness and shenanigans. Every time I get to listen to the Mets broadcast, he talks constantly about this.

Anyway,

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by dcfish on Jul 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions

shocking title

made me think he had been traded

by FishNFinz on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions

I think he should be traded

While we can get something worthwhile for him…

by Zag on Jul 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions

Tuesday picks

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Boni continues streak; Marlins score more than 3 runs

by xquiles21x on Jul 26, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions

Gaby's not starting tonight, just reported he's been scratched from the lineup

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/mlb/Gaby_Sanchez/1720458/gaby-sanchez-was-scratched-from-tuesdays-lineup-against-the

Icthyophobia- (n.) Fear of the Fish.

by miramarjuice on Jul 26, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Dobbs will Start at 1B apparently

Icthyophobia- (n.) Fear of the Fish.

by miramarjuice on Jul 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

My heart sank when I saw the title.

Wow.

Anyhow, I think Hanley has been making the effort this year, and he should get credit for it. If his defense is too poor for a SS, maybe he should be converted to a 2B, and move Infante to 3B. What can we get if we trade him outright? is Ozzy Martinez ready yet?

Who needs a SS that has anything the Marlins are interested in?

by Jigokusabre on Jul 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions