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Prince Fielder...doing something here. The Marlins could yet consider him in their free agency, but what other options are available to them? (Photo by Kiyoshi Ota/Getty Images)

The Marlins accomplished a lot during their last week, inking three free agents to multi-year deals and improving their team significantly over last year's model. The problem is that while they achieved a good amount in just one week's time, their further plans for improvement were thwarted by the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, who signed two prominent Marlins free agent targets in Albert Pujols and C.J. Wilson.

Many Marlins fans are wondering what the Marlins should do now that some of their free agent options have been taken away. Regardless of whether or not the Marlins have improved the team this season, the fans of the Fish want to see the Marlins create a contender for 2012, while the team is interested in building a product in which the south Florida fan base can invest in order to ensure revenue streams for the future. In order to do this, the Marlins may have to look to other plans this offseason.

So what are the options available to the Fish? As loaded an offseason as it has been so far, there are actually some decent available options out there for the Marlins if they choose to spend. The question is whether they should choose to spend at this point.

Prince Fielder

The biggest free agent left in the market is Fielder, or as Brendan Tobin has been calling him on Twitter, #PlanB. The Marlins were previously looking to upgrade at first base, so it makes logical sense that they would still attempt to do so by switching targets from Pujols to Fielder. After all, Fielder is a star too, right?

Yes, he is, but let no one confuse Fielder with Pujols. Ever.

Star-divide

Player, 2009-2011 PA AVG OBP SLG wOBA Total Avg WAR*
Pujols 2051 .313 .409 .598 .419 22.9
Fielder 2125 .287 .409 .547 .403 14.0

*Denotes average of FanGraphs Wins Above Replacement (fWAR), Baseball-Reference Wins Above Replacement (rWAR), and Baseball Prospectus' WARP

By no means is Fielder a bad player, but he is not starting at nearly the same level as Pujols is. As you can see, Pujols has been the better hitter the last three seasons, and his additional benefits as a superior defender (rWAR has him at +18 runs versus Fielder's -18 runs on defense since 2009) and baserunner (Pujols at +6 runs since 2009 versus Fielder's -17 runs) only serve to widen the gap between the two hitters. Pujols averaged 7.6 WAR per season over the last three years, and even at his older age, he is projected at around seven wins to start 2012. Fielder, despite all of his ability, only averaged 4.7 WAR per season over that same time span, and you would be hard-pressed to project more than maybe 5.5 WAR to start in 2012.

None of that is to say that Fielder would not be an upgrade over Gaby Sanchez, who just is not in the same plane as either of these two players. But as an affordable two- to three-win player, Sanchez is someone a team like the Marlins can live with at first. And the downgrade of 1.5 wins from Pujols to Fielder makes the trade return the Marlins receive from Sanchez even more important; if the club cannot secure a good enough return in terms of a pitcher to compensate for Sanchez's win totals over the next few seasons, a signing like Fielder's may not improve the team significantly. With the uncertainty of the trade market and the steep price teams are looking for in return for a commodity like Oakland A's starter Gio Gonzalez, it may be best to avoid the trade market entirely.

Starting Pitching

If the Marlins are looking to avoid being forced into a trade due to a lack of proper trade partners, the team may simply look to upgrade on essentially its fifth starter spot. The Marlins may be out of significant improvements in terms of left-handed starting pitching, but there are still some righties worth considering. The first option would almost undoubtedly be Edwin Jackson.

Jackson, Year K% BB% ERA FIP Avg WAR
2011 17.2 7.2 3.79 3.55 2.8
2010 20.1 8.7 4.47 3.86 2.7
2009 18.1 7.9 3.62 4.28 3.3
2009-2011 18.5 7.9 3.96 3.90 2.9*

*Denotes average per season over three years

In some respects, Jackson is like the anti-Mark Buehrle, as he achieved very similar WAR values over the last three years but did so with widely varying peripherals, even though in the end his FIP and ERA matched up very well over those three years. Either way, at age 28, it would be difficult to expect Jackson to suddenly drop in value after three solid seasons, so I imagine he will be able to post something around his previous three-year average of three wins per season.

Jackson had very little buzz surrounding him because he was relegated to third-wheel status behind Buehrle and Wilson, but now we should expect teams to be interested in him, and Scott Boras is sure to get value for his client. If Jackson signs, I would not be surprised if it is for around $12 million per season for three or four years, and the Marlins should be at least interested in such a deal if they are looking to upgrade for 2012.

Jackson would serve as a direct replacement for Chris Volstad in the rotation. Despite the vitriol generally thrown at Volstad, he has been exactly what one might expect from a number five starter type.

Volstad, Year K% BB% ERA FIP Avg WAR
2011 16.3 6.8 4.89 4.32 0.7
2010 13.5 7.9 4.58 4.34 1.6
2009 15.7 8.7 5.21 5.26 -0.3
2009-2011 15.1 7.8 4.88 4.64 0.7*

There is a lot that is wrong with Chris Volstad, and at this point it is difficult to imagine him ever living up to his first-round potential. His stuff has always been underwhelming, so he does not have the advantage of Edwin Jackson's tools to keep him alive as just a "former prospect" as Jackson was for so many seasons early in his career. However, as bad as Volstad has been, he has still averaged one WAR per season over the last few years, meaning an investment in a starter like Jackson would only net a two-win gain for the club.

Of course, the Marlins have more reasons to consider a two-win gain as a positive, even for the money that Jackson will probably earn. The team has to be concerned about the health status of Josh Johnson, who never suffered a structural injury to his shoulder but still missed most of the 2011 season with shoulder inflammation. The team's lack of pitching depth sunk them last season, and it is clear that the club still lacks pitching prospects who are close to ready for big league play. Much like a few seasons ago with Sean West, the Marlins found out that Brad Hand was not major-league ready and shouldn't be for at least another season, so if Johnson or another starter goes down with injury, the club would like to have some depth available. Signing Jackson and keeping Volstad and newly-acquired Wade LeBlanc on hand could help in that capacity.

Yoenis Cespedes

There is always the chance that the Marlins will spend on Cespedes now that the major free-agent names have been taken. The club now does not have a severe hole in center field with a possible Emilio Bonifacio / Bryan Petersen platoon, but with the club still interested in spending money, would Cespedes be a viable option? Back when we were not certain what he would earn, I thought he would be a good idea. Now that the Marlins have shown the willingness to spend, Cespedes would be a great upside pickup.

However, the possibility of being forced to overspend on Cespedes is possible, with a deal going into the $60 million range. Should the Marlins be willing to risk that kind of money on a player who has essentially never played much more than at the Triple-A level? Presumably, a $60 million deal would be for more than six years, but in any case the Fish would be committing a lot of time and money for a player entering his prime but still mostly unproven. Then again, with the wide available range of possible outcomes with Cespedes, the team may still be willing to bid on the risky asset, favoring the upside of huge gains over the sure-fire incremental pickups.

Sit On It

This is probably the option Marlins fans want to hear least. The Fish have improved their team dramatically, but no amount of free agent signings will brute force them into contention without two important factors:

- The regression of Hanley Ramirez back to at least 2010 levels

- The return of a mostly-healthy Josh Johnson

Even if the Marlins chase after Fielder, the team will not contend without those two factors present. And as of right now, those are the two biggest question marks on the team. With the club currently still with a very good chance of being on the outside looking in, why splurge on minor bonuses and benefits mostly centered around the 2012 season? If the Fish get the above contributions from Johnson and Ramirez, they will be near the level of contention; with a few bounces going their way (think 2009's 87-win season), the club could push its way into one of the Wild Card spots, and it is all a crapshoot from there.

Yes, the Marlins could spend on Fielder or Jackson, guys who are likely to match up value for their contract offers, but it could end without them in contention and with them owing a significantly larger sum in long-term deals. Rather than doing that, they can wait and see on 2012, re-evaluate their position, and save their money for future extensions for players like Johnson, Ramirez, and most importantly Mike Stanton. Plus, while the free agent crop will be lighter in 2013, it may also be deeper in talent rather than the top-heavy market we saw this season. The club could leave financial flexibility to pursue players in the following years as well.

What do you Fish Stripers think?

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I'd call it a day

It doesn’t sound like they are interested in Fielder. Cespedes would be nice but he would be wildly overpriced for someone who has never played in MLB or minor leagues. They will probably make a couple trades, but I’d save money for next offseasons and locking up Mike Stanton.

by tedhill on Dec 9, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Don’t need any other major free agents, just lock up players like Stanton for the long-term

by PhinPhan910 on Dec 9, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

JOSE REYS

As a METS fan I wanted to pass along a few thoughts. As a homegrown player we all over looked his down size, we had visions of Reyes knocking of Jeter as the ultimate SS in NY. We where blinded by his skill and future. He never played up to expectations. When he was on the DL for monthes at a time, not running out a single, mental blunders on the bases and, swinging at everything. When the team was going down the toilet in 07 and 08, he skulked around and didnt play hard. We all stuck behind him and chanted his name, and, this is what we get? When he hits the DL and fails to rise up to your expectations, what then? I dont think he will be a Marlin for very long. I think he will be gone within 3 years.

by PiazzaHOF on Dec 11, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Something interesting to note

Reyes’s rank in FanGraphs Wins Above Replacement (fWAR) among qualified shortstops:

2006: 3rd
2007: 2nd
2008: 2nd
2009: Did not qualify due to injury
2010: 8th
2011: 2nd
2006-2011: 2nd

Since 2006, he ranks only behind Hanley Ramirez among the best shortstops in baseball. He is ahead (though not so significantly that one would consider it a huge difference) of guys like Jimmy Rollins, Derek Jeter, and Troy Tulowitzki. And that includes him missing much of 2009 with injury.

If you were disappointed by Reyes, I apologize. But he was damn good, and while he won’t be as good for the Marlins, it’s hard to say that the Fish got a bad deal here.

by Michael Jong on Dec 11, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why I linked your article

I believe Reyes is better than he thinks and your article did a good job of explaining that, I thought.

Marlins in the off-season. Get some... Free agents, that is.

by marlinsfan315 on Dec 11, 2011 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks!

It’s true, he had one legitimately bad season, and four legitimately good ones. Yes, the bad one was among the recent ones, but there’s no reason to discount Reyes’s skill.

by Michael Jong on Dec 11, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I think that we are a mid 80 win team right now. If JJ and Hanley return to normal, and he get bounce back years from buck, infante, lomo, and gabby then we should be in good shape. We can maybe make a few moves at the deadline then make a final push. I’m in favor of selling high on gabby in July, before his horrid second half starts.

by rideallnide on Dec 9, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Volstad vs. the field

I don’t think that -0.3 WAR sufficiently describes how awful Volstad was last season. He was literally one of the worst qualifying pitchers in the game before getting demoted.

Even adding someone like Livan Hernandez and Brad Penny would give a #5 starter that can consistently keep a team in the game. Adding Edwin Jackson or Hiroki Kuroda are more expensive options, but when you’re a mid-80s win team (which the Marlins are, unless disaster strikes) a few wins one way or the other are the difference between the Wild Card and missing the playoffs.

by Jigokusabre on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

The -0.3 WAR was from 2009

THAT was a season where he was among the worst pitchers in baseball before demotion. Last year, he had a 4.86 ERA, which was admittedly 6th worse among qualified pitchers, but likely not a whole lot different than the names you mentioned and with much better upside (which is to say, “some”) than the names you mentioned.

by Michael Jong on Dec 9, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i swear

volstad would be a halfway decent pitcher if the marlins just resolved to skip every start he makes vs the phillies

by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Dec 10, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I agree with most of you

Would Fielder be awesome, hell yeah he would.
But I don’t see an issue with waiting to see how well this team plays before the deadline, then make a move.

Though if there is one free agent I’d still want that’s cheaper than Fielder, it’s Carlos Beltran.

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by Terrence Hunley on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Beltran wouldn't be a bad short term addition

But it would necessitate a trade of Sanchez. I’d like to make something like that happen, but I don’t know where to start. Need to get a sense of how other teams view Gaby Sanchez.

by Michael Jong on Dec 9, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

what abour ricky?

way up in Hs & down in Ks last year. if he could regress up than he could certainly add wins as a 3/4 starter as opposed to his play last year going up against 1/2 starters.

by byoung on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

I'll have more about Ricky soon

There is something he is doing that is causing him to pitch worse than he actually has. Even last year, his FIP was solidly in the 3.50 range because he also suppressed some home runs. I think the consistent problem with runners on base is the root of the issue with his performance.

by Michael Jong on Dec 9, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick question

Played baseball all my life and through college and never got into sabermetrics is there any book you would suggest that would basically set me up to know what I am looking at. Sorry for the ignorance on the subject im just lost when I look at some of these stats.

SPEAR or get SPEARED!!

by centralflnole on Dec 9, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Although king Albert is a far superior player to fielder at this point wouldnt it be safe to say a long term deal for a 27 year old would be wiser than one to a 31 yr old. As I see it, marlins are better off not acquiring Albert or prince. Having a cost controlled first bAseman in gabby and investing in pitching now and in the future seems to make more sense than making a splash just for the sake of making one.

by syper17 on Dec 9, 2011 4:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

i linked the article a couple posts back

-the dodgers are looking at a 150-200 mil/yr tv contract with fox. (big part of kemp signing)
-angels were still negotiating at a 80ish mill/yr tv contract before the pujols & wilson signings. not an expert but i seriously doubt the angels will now get less than 100mill/yr with their updated roster just from tv
i would think that’s a pretty good business decision; especially if they win a WS or 2.

by byoung on Dec 9, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Great question

I would suggest starting with the sidebar here on this very site, which points out a variety of good resources, including this one: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/

That would be the FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library, which has simple explanations for all the stats we talk about. The more you want to go in depth, the better.

Then, if I had to pick a few books of interest, you should try any of the old Bill James Historical Abstracts and probably more importantly these two books:

The Book: Playing The Percentages in Baseball: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1597971294?tag=tangotiger-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=1597971294&adid=10Q4P3XW1PV9R1RNBVEX&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insidethebook.com%2Fee%2F

Baseball Between the Numbers: Why Everything You Know About the Game is Wrong: http://www.amazon.com/Baseball-Between-Numbers-Everything-About/dp/0465005470/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323469004&sr=8-1

Two of the most enlightening books that I’ve read regarding the game. Having said all that, you don’t need to know everything in these resources to understand what’s happening, but it’s always great to learn more about the game.

by Michael Jong on Dec 9, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Along with what Michael said

I highly recommend fangraphs. It was such a help to me.

As far as just baseball stats in general, I’m not 100 percent positive they have anything describing stats, but a great resource for splits and what not is www.baseball-reference.com

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by Terrence Hunley on Dec 9, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Will definitely give those a read. I would like to post on here and act like I know what I am talking about.

SPEAR or get SPEARED!!

by centralflnole on Dec 9, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy with the moves we've made

Since I’m used to the fish never spending on FA’s, this offseason almost makes me feel spoiled. Let’s see what we are, then we can figure out what else we need.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 9, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

So Far So Good

The team has made some surprisingly good moves. If it were up to me, I’d do the following:
1) Sign Winningham for LF and move LoMo to 1B before he kills himself out there. Some of you younger fans should read about Pete Reiser. He was one of the best raw talents ever. a batting champion at 21 and washed up at about 26. He thought he could move walls if he hit them hard enough.
2) Trade Gabby, Dominguez, Volstad and the former Nunez for somebody; preferably a pitcher.
3) Offer Vazquez a contract that would allow home visits, or move his family to Miami area; he would still cost less than a comparable free agent.
4) Sign Dontrelle as a “feel good” gesture as a lefty relief specialist. He was pretty good against lefties last year…and one never knows. I’m afraid that the guy might be an alcholic though.
5) Pray a lot

by Stanley Dancer on Dec 9, 2011 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Yu Darvish

What about going for the Yu Darvish sweepstakes? I think if they want to spend, they should go for him.

by joe_cool_20_00 on Dec 10, 2011 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

Post amount is a waste of money

Then you have to sign an unproven commodity for more than he’s worth?

Go Nevada Wolf Pack!

by BacksThePack on Dec 10, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I don’t trust foreign pitchers

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by Terrence Hunley on Dec 10, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Comparing Darvish to those guys...

Is pretty far off. He’s nothing like them. Not a finesse guy or a typical japanese pitcher by any means. He’s quite big and possesses real tools to be a successful SP, not gimmick jap pitches.

by josh111 on Dec 11, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

that pic is frightful

i’d think this place would be more packed after these winter meetings. Crazy, hope they won’t go bankrupt after 2 seasons

by miamigirl54 on Dec 11, 2011 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

As Loria says

It’s all about how the fans respond. If the team gets attendance up. I’m sure the Fish will find an appropriate payroll level near the league average. If not, expect a lower mid-market payroll.

by Michael Jong on Dec 11, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any chance

the Marlins get a TV deal akin to one the Rangers and Angels signed? Not a contract worth as much as those teams’ but one that can bolster a payroll?

by whambam on Dec 11, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be interesting

I’m not sure on the details of the current Marlins deal, but I can’t see why it wouldnt. Fox Sports Florida in 2006, so I imagine the deal still has a few more years in the tank. I haven’t been able to find any details on it, but I suspect if the club is doing well, the Fish may be able to get a nice TV deal out FS Florida.

by Michael Jong on Dec 12, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Michael, have you seen this article on FanGraphs?

Pretty interesting how many former Marlins are on his list. Interestingly, that may be a good sign that those are FORMER Marlins (with the exception of Buck). Anyway, interesting to look at this with hindsight and evaluate how the F.O. is doing with personnel.

by Dennis the Marlin on Dec 12, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Take it with a grain of salt; I think the author is trying more to be humorous and less statistically sound in his choices.

by Dennis the Marlin on Dec 12, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I did check it out

Love Klaassen’s work, and yeah, this one is more of a “fun” article. Still, you got to be happy that, at least in the way FanGraphs evaluates players, Buck came out very average despite a poor-looking season.

by Michael Jong on Dec 12, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

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