Marlins Confuse With Badenhop, Rowand Moves
The Marlins made a pair of moves this evening, trading right-handed reliever Burke Badenhop to the Tampa Bay Rays for minor league catcher Jake Jeffries along with signing outfielder Aaron Rowand to a minor league deal.
Obviously, these are not the moves that are going to excite the fan base about the Miami Marlins. In reality, not much will come of either move. Nevertheless, it does not make either acquisition look any better by looking at it in the "does it really matter" light. In fact, neither move looks particularly smart.
Badenhop was the only remaining Marlins left from the blockbuster deal that sent Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to the Detroit Tigers. It is safe to say that, in retrospect, the Fish did not get what they wanted in that trade, and had I told you that the only player that would remain that deal by 2011 for the Marlins was a right-handed middle reliever, you would be disappointed. But for a right-handed middle reliever, Badenhop was just fine.
| Badenhop, Year | IP | K% | BB% | ERA | FIP | Avg WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 63 2/3 | 18.5 | 8.7 | 4.10 | 2.95 | 0.8 |
| 2010 | 67 2/3 | 16.7 | 7.5 | 3.99 | 3.67 | 0.5 |
| 2009 | 72 | 18.8 | 7.9 | 3.75 | 3.46 | 0.8 |
| 2009-2011 | 203 1/3 | 18.0 | 8.0 | 3.96 | 3.37 | 0.7 |
Now, there is no confusing the Hopper as anything but a solid, unspectacular, major league reliever. He would do well in the seventh inning, but his sizeable career split (2.87 FIP against right-handers versus 4.75 FIP against lefties) will always prevent him from being more than a early-inning right-handed reliever and will likely make his peripherals look better than his real performance. Badenhop was completely expendable for the Fish despite his skills, in the same sense that Brian Sanches was.
The problem is that the Marlins seem intent on holding onto this other guy.
| Oviedo, Year | IP | K% | BB% | ERA | FIP | Avg WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 64 1/3 | 20.5 | 7.8 | 4.06 | 3.98 | 0.4 |
| 2010 | 65 | 26.3 | 7.8 | 3.46 | 2.86 | 1.3 |
| 2009 | 68 2/3 | 20.5 | 9.5 | 4.06 | 5.17 | -0.1 |
| 2009-2011 | 198 | 22.4 | 8.3 | 3.86 | 4.02 | 0.5 |
Now, I do not doubt the likelihood that Juan Carlos Oviedo, or the man formerly known as Leo Nunez, is better than Burke Badenhop. When the numbers are as close as they are, I side with the guy with the better stuff, and Nunez does have some very good stuff. Unfortunately, the fact that the numbers are as close as they should indicate that while Oviedo may be better, he is not better by much. Yet the Marlins traded Badenhop for a catcher that was drafted in the third round of the 2007 draft but has since hit .254/.318/.343 for his career in the minors and is now 24 years old. Meanwhile, the team is still planning on tendering Oviedo a contract, according to Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun-Sentinel.
Presumably the team is still interested in trading Oviedo, but nothing is likely to happen until his visa situation is cleared up. Until then, teams will not offer anything for the chance of getting Oviedo at a projected $6 million salary for 2012. The team (Marlins or otherwise) could sign Oviedo to a friendlier deal because of his legal problems, but he still is not likely to make less than the $3.65 million he made last season. Even if he makes a similar value, this still avoids the fact that the Fish would be at least entertaining the idea of paying almost $4 million for a guy who is not much better than someone else they just gave away.
The Rowand signing is unlikely to amount to much more than a minor league depth signing, but it is important to note that Rowand has not been important for at least two seasons and is still being paid for one more season by the San Francisco Giants. The only thing the Marlins probably know about Rowand is that he hit the home run off of Oviedo in 2010 that triggered the sudden halt of slide usage by the reliever, which subsequently led to his most successful major league season. Of course, the team undid that in the offseason leading into 2011, and Oviedo promptly returned to being mediocre.
Again, neither move is a killer for the Marlins by any means. However, the moves coupled with the likely decisions the team will be making in a little while regarding their bullpen call into question some of the thinking process of the front office.
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Aaron Rowand is the worst.
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Guillen getting some of his 2005 champs together
Rowand is a great baseball person, unfortunately his decline was rather sharp and quick. Despite all his faults, Rowand is yet to have a negative WAR season in his career, so he can contribute….negligently nowadays with the bat, but he can still catch the ball decently or at least better than C. Coghlan, and maybe better than Bonifacio….. but boy, Rowand’s bat has seen better times.
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by JofpGallagher on Dec 13, 2011 7:03 AM EST up reply actions
The BB/K numbers have reached historic depths.
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by Julian Levine on Dec 13, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Oh wow...thanks
I didn’t notice the ratio between those two. Uglier every year, specially the BB %. Does he miss the AL or a new pair of glasses?
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by JofpGallagher on Dec 13, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is that we got rid of Badenhop and Hensley because they were taking up 40-man roster spots. That’s all fine and well, however I can’t help but feel we could have gotten more trade value for both of them.
As for acquiring Rowand, the only real explanation for that would have to be adding minor-league depth. Otherwise, what’s the point? (Again, I would have to say that we could have done better.)
by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Dec 13, 2011 1:24 AM EST reply actions
I think Rowand would sooner retire than play in the minors.
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With Hensley gone, Sanches gone & now Badenhop gone who is our long reliever for those games we know all too well when the SP gets pulled in the 3rd or 4th inning?
It was also nice to run out Sanches/Hensley/Badenhop to mop it up for 3 or 4 innings rather than put Dunn/Webb/Mujica out there for an inning each & deplete the pen especially when the game is out of reach.
Sanches/Hensley/Badenhop took a lot of runs on the chin for us over the years & that gets overlooked.
I would guess LeBlanc will be a long man
But yeah, the pen does seem a little thin with those guys gone.
by OraNge DusTT on Dec 13, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
Marlins have six guys who should be ready to go by season's start
Bell, Mujica, Dunn, Choate, Cishek, and Ceda are probably locks. They need one more guy to do long relief, and as you mentioned, I wouldn’t be surprised if they use LeBlanc in that capacity. I’d be happy going into the season with that bullpen.
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by Michael Jong on Dec 13, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
What about Volstad as a long reliever?
Haven’t really looked in-depth at the idea, but I’m sure we have an affordable in-house replacement or we will have another Hensley in training camp this season that fills the role adequately.
by Dennis the Marlin on Dec 13, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
But who will be the fifth starter?
Presumably that is Volstad’s role to lose, as he remains the likely best option. He could probably work as a long reliever, but it would certainly be a waste of the money we’ll be paying him (estimated $2.6M in arbitration, could sign for less).
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by Michael Jong on Dec 13, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
While I would be ok with Volstad as the 5th starter
I’m wondering if the FO doesn’t try to sign a veteran inning-eater for that final spot. Unfortunately, I don’t think the FO cares what they are paying our relievers anymore. At the current rate, 2.6 million might be a steal for a reliever in our overpaid ’pen.
by Dennis the Marlin on Dec 13, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Kinda sucks
I’ll miss the hopper and his hopping. But as you said it won’t effect our team that much either way
They didn't think first...
Before making these trades. Are they going to keep Hand as a long man? Sanabia? It doesn’t seem to be well thought out. And Rowand, while a great baseball man, is done.
by FLORIDA Marlin Fan on Dec 13, 2011 7:40 AM EST reply actions
this catcher
is never going to see the majors right? he seems abjectly terrible
the bullpen mildly freaks me out… i’m not a fan of dunn or webb at all. mujica will probably regress… who knows what you’re getting with ceda. cishek and leo will probably be okay. bell will be fine.
i guess there’s some projection left in dunn or webb, mainly in dunn, but idk.
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