Marlins Reportedly Trying To Acquire Gio Gonzalez
David Villavicencio, a freelance writer for MLB.com and former beat writer for FoxSportsFlorida.com, supposedly has the inside scoop.
A source close to Gio Gonzalez reports the Miami native could be joining his hometown team soon.The 26-year-old is coming off the best season of his young career. Gonzalez won 16 games and struck out 197 batters while posting a 3 .12 ERA and representing the Oakland A’s in the All-Star Game. He has won 31 games and struck out 368 over the past two seasons with Oakland.But adding a player like Gonzalez comes at a price. The lefty is young, performing at a very high level, affordable and under team control through 2015. A’s general manager Billy Beane could expect to get a nice package in return for the left-hander. He is also certain to receive plenty of calls from fellow GMs should word get out that Oakland is actively looking to move him.The source says three different players have been discussed as potential pieces for the deal. All three players played significant time with the Marlins last season. It is unlikely that all three would be involved in the deal
UPDATE: The Marlins have flatly rejected a Gio Gonzalez deal with Oakland A's when the A's asked for either Logan Morrison or Mike Stanton, this according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald (H/T MLB Trade Rumors and FS reader rayrayrayrayray cont.). No surprise, since the Marlins did mention earlier that Morrison was "off-limits." Asking for Mike Stanton was bound to get laughed off the stage. Billy Beane certainly should have known better. This news may squash that rumor.
I'm inclined to believe there is some truth this report. Gio Gonzalez is a hometown kid and if I recall correctly, David V. knows people who know people who -- you get the idea. That's not to say it's a sure thing and you should start ordering his jersey.- Why would the Oakland Athletics, a small market team, jettison a great young player at a low salary whom they have under club control for four more years?
- If they were to trade him, wouldn't they want an incredible trade package, including cheap major league talent AND notable prospects?
- Why would the Marlins make a trade (and most likely sign Gonzalez to a contract extension) when they could just sign Mark Buerhle or C.J. Wilson or other free agents?
- Who are the three Marlins being discussed in the deal? Presumably Logan Morrison and/or Gaby Sanchez are involved. Who are the others?
So let the speculation begin.
Michael's Take: We have heard these rumors before regarding Gonzalez. The idea is that the A's are in flux because of their lack of a stadium deal, and Billy Beane is willing to listen to almost all of his players whom he does not suspect will be involved in a future winning A's team that might exist after their stadium situation is resolved. The current plan is to move the team to San Jose if the city of Oakland will not assist in a new stadium, but the San Francisco Giants own rights to that area and are fighting a move to that location.
What does that all mean baseball-wise? The A's are going to listen to offers, but it does not mean they will be jettisoning players wholesale a la 1998 Florida Marlins. If the Fish want to acquire Gonzalez (and I would not be averse to this, since Gonzalez is very affordable and quite good), the team will have to pony up good talent in return. One of the chips would undoubtedly have to be Logan Morrison, as the A's would not be interested in an older player like Gaby Sanchez. Would the Marlins be able to pull off a deal headlined by Morrison and perhaps the falling stock of Matt Dominguez? I'd suspect this would be decently appropriate, as Morrison and Gonzalez both share the status of talented, young, team-controlled players.
Fish Stripes will have more on this story if and when it develops. Once again, the offseason is proving to be quite intriguing this year.
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This does not pass the smell test
Billy Beane would not jettison a player under team control unless he has a very strong suspicion that the player in question is overpriced or due for a hard regression to the mean.
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If he thinks he's due for a regression to the mean
Wouldn’t it make some sense to trade him now? Sell high.
Right, I think that's what Dave is saying
He’s only willing to trade Gonzalez if he thinks something is improperly evaluated (ie he has more information than us). In that case, it would be a mistake for the Marlins to acquire him.
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by Michael Jong on Nov 21, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agreement is awesome
Huzzah!
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by Michael Jong on Nov 21, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
The Marlins are looking scarier by the day
Well, at least, just by looking at the rumors. Imagine last year’s team with Jose Reyes, Pujols, and now Gio Gonzalez? Towel please.
But I have to wonder how much truth these rumors hold. After a talking head somewhere said that the Marlins were “close to a deal with Reyes” this claim quickly turned to dust. And their deal with Pujols was supposedly worse than that of the Cardinals’ offered last year. I’m not sure I should still listen to the boy crying wolf…
I think the rumors hold truth
but I don’t think the plan is to sign everyone…there is some prioritizing going on.
there may be interest in Pujols “and” Reyes.
But as far as actual transactions are concerned there are a lot of "or"s.
http://baseballperiod.blogspot.com/
well, of course they can't sign everybody
I was just saying that the way the Marlins keeps floating in and out of discussions for big-name players is kind of disappointing, at least for an outsider like me. Whatever is going on in Florida seems extremely exciting, but the impression I’m getting from the front office is a sense of, almost, confusion. I’d love to see gio and/or jose reyes as a marlin next year (not albert for obvious reasons), but the way the organization is handling this is worrisome.
by hr on Nov 21, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
I take it more as
the FO is trying to make their interest known to all the players that have interest in. As to not put all their eggs in one basket. It isn’t that they are going in and out of discussions with players….well literally they are…but I have the utmost confidence that their actual interest isn’t wavering…just who they talk to (and thus who we hear about in rumors) changes daily.
http://baseballperiod.blogspot.com/
The Marlins said they have a flow chart that represents their plans
They’re certainly not going to sign everyone, but they are looking for a big name and at least a smaller name FA. They can’t sign two big name guys.
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by Michael Jong on Nov 21, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I like Lomo...but we already have plenty of hitting power
What is killing this team is the lack of good pitchers. I’ve gone to plenty of games where we have scored 4 to 6 runs, but blow nice leads away with poor pitching. Our bullpen is abysmal, and unless we fix that, we are not going anywhere any time soon.
I think the Marlins are making the right moves. Do I think that will translate into a World Series appearance next year? Probably not…but there is no reason why we can’t compete for the #1 spot in our division and make it to the playoffs. And maybe in 2-3 years we can actually make it to the World Series again.
by Miami Marlins 2012 on Nov 21, 2011 8:15 PM EST reply actions
IMO we really only need SP
our bullpen was just overexposed, 6th most IP in the league.
But also the 6th best OPS against so we really didn’t have that bad of a bullpen.
Less IP would keep the BP arms fresh, and other teams wouldn’t get as used to seeing them, which is one of the greatest benefits RPs have. They provide the batters with a different style of pitching, making the batter uncomfortable….if the batter has seen the pitcher already in the same series the batter should be able to adjust to the pitcher.
a fairly talented bullpen (like ours) can be a great asset when you only really need about 3 IP a day.
Our issue stems from all those times we had to pull our starter after like 3.2 IP. Not a lack of talent.
http://baseballperiod.blogspot.com/
this scares me
we need pitching but you can’t trade lomo for a third starter. he’s much better than that as a player and really important to the marlins’ ability to score runs. even if the marlins signed reyes AND cespedes an order with gaby batting fifth is still at least mildly concerning to me.
the problem with any marlins trade rumors is this: the team’s farm system isn’t good enough outside of christian yelich (who should be basically off limits imo) to acquire any major league player of significance, so that means these trade proposals are always going to include current marlins major leaguers… and i’m not sure you want to give any of those guys up considering we have very few impact ones in the first place.
the one thing that the staff needs is something that is out of everyone’s hands, and that’s for josh johnson to be healthy for a whole season. if that can happen and they acquire a mid level starter in free agency the guys currently on the team (ani, ricky, whichever 5th starter they wanna pluck from the minors) should pitch well enough to be a good enough staff. trading one of our few good hitters for a starter would be a parallel move imo.
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Nov 21, 2011 9:11 PM EST reply actions
who gets traded? gabys my guess... if the front office decides to make pujols an offer he cant refuse
The thing is Gaby Sanchez isn't an attractive enough piece to be dealt for Gio Gonzalez
even as part of a package. Beane wants players who have a chance of being valuable the next time the A’s are contenders, which he suspects is years away and after a stadium deal. Sanchez is already 27 in 2012, so even though he is team-controlled, he is anything but young.
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by Michael Jong on Nov 22, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
well this is good news!
While the Marlins have spoken to the A’s about a possible trade for lefty Gio Gonzalez, Oakland’s demands for the Hialeah product — specifically, some sort of package containing either Logan Morrison or Mike Stanton — have been flatly rejected.
Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_bytes/2011/11/cj-wilson-to-visit-marlins.html#ixzz1eRwSl7VY
by rayrayrayrayrayrayrayray on Nov 22, 2011 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Yes, just spotted this as well
Thanks for the heads up. The Marlins appear adamant not to trade Logan Morrison in favor of anyone other than James Shields, which seems unlikely to happen. The funny thing is that this idea would not have been a bad fit, but it seems the Marlins are either eyeing to eventually make Morrison the team’s first baseman of the future or they really don’t mind his bad defense in left field.
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by Michael Jong on Nov 22, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
On a semi-related note...
…the Marlins traded John Baker to the Pads for Wade LeBlanc.
So long, Volstad.
by d.o.g.o.b.g.y.n. on Nov 22, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions




















