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Signing a Big Free Agent is Far from a Sure Thing- A Look at a Realistic Marlins Roster

There has been a buzz surrounding the newly minted Miami Marlins that has never existed around this franchise. Predictions as to which free agents will sign are flying around at a record rate for this franchise. Sure, there were times in the past when the Marlins spent money on some free agents. Prior to the 1996 season, the Marlins signed Kevin Brown, Al Leiter, and Devon White. In 1997, the Marlins signed Bobby Bonilla and Moises Alou. The Marlins have also opened the checkbook on occasion for the likes of Carlos Delgado, Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez, and Charles Johnson (his forgettable second stint), among others. But never have the Marlins been discussed as possible destinations for a player considered the best of his generation (Albert Pujols), a perennial All-Star slugger in his prime (Prince Fielder), and arguably the game's most dynamic shortstop (Jose Reyes). Plenty of fans ("Plenty" is loosely defined here) are salivating at the potential of the team's lineup when they open the new ballpark in Little Havana next April. But has anyone stopped and considered how the Marlins could succeed without the addition of one of these free agents?

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I hate the idea of raining on everybody's parade, but this needs to be addressed. The Marlins, even with revenues generated by the new park, will likely not be in a position to pay one of these players a large salary for as many years as they would like. For that reason, there is a chance (in my opinion, a good one) that the Marlins are unable to sign any of these players. That doesn't mean the Marlins would be unable to sign any free agents, just not the highest-profile ones. Let's look at the players under contract for next year, those who are likely to sign or go to arbitration, and those who are not yet arbitration-eligible and will likely be back with the club before diving into hypotheticals:

Catcher: John Buck

Catcher: Brett Hayes

First Base: Gaby Sanchez

Second Base: Omar Infante

Shortstop: Hanley Ramirez

Outfield: Mike Stanton

Outfield: Logan Morrison

Outfield: Bryan Petersen

Utility: Emilio Bonifacio

Starting Pitcher: Josh Johnson

Starting Pitcher: Anibal Sanchez

Starting Pitcher: Ricky Nolasco

Relief Pitcher: Edward Mujica

Relief Pitcher: Mike Dunn

Relief Pitcher: Randy Choate

Relief Pitcher: Ryan Webb

Relief Pitcher: Burke Badenhop

Relief Pitcher: Steve Cishek

You'll notice that I have not listed a third baseman and the roster is seven players short of being complete. Again, this is just a list of players from this past year that I believe, barring a trade, are locks to make the roster next year. Looking at the names on this list, I am satisfied about the team's chances of competing. Most of the everyday lineup is taken care of, and the top three starters are competitive, if not slightly flawed. Now that the returning players are established, we can turn our attention to realistic free agent additions who can make a difference.

A credible source who closely follows the Marlins has estimated the payroll next year to be around $85 million. For argument's sake, let's say the Marlins roster as I have it now will require a payroll around $63 million. That leaves around $22 million to play with for the upcoming year and seven positions to fill. I'll group the likeliest candidates together by infield, outfield, starting pitcher, and relief pitcher. Free agents will be identified as "(FA)". Let's take a gander:

Infielders: Matt Dominguez, Greg Dobbs

Outfielders: Chris Coghlan, Scott Cousins, Juan Pierre (FA), Yoenis Cespedes (FA), Cody Ross (FA), Kevin Mattison

Starting Pitchers: Chris Volstad, Javier Vazquez (FA), Alex Sanabia, Brad Hand, Mark Buehrle (FA)

Relief Pitchers: Chris Hatcher, Clay Hensley, Peter Andrelczyk, Jonathan Broxton (FA)

Ok, now that our candidates are listed, I owe you my thought process at each position and my prediction of who will end up a Miami Marlin on opening day. I'll start with relief pitchers. Since six have already made our pretend roster, one spot is left over. Broxton, the former closer of the Los Angeles Dodgers, ran into some control and arm injury issues the past couple of years. Before that, he was a very effective closer. The Marlins have been known to take on reclamation projects at closer (Todd Jones and Armando Benitez) while this front office regime has been here and I can't see them spending $10+ million on a Ryan Madson or $7+ million on a Francisco Rodriguez. Instead, their resources will go to better use on a reclamation project like Broxton or an in-house option such as Hatcher, Hensley, or Andrelczyk. Prediction: Broxton- going out on a limb, but that is half the fun of these exercises. Price: $1 million + incentives.

Next, there are two starting pitcher spots up for competition. Mark Buehrle has been rumored to the Marlins because of his connection to the new manager, Ozzie Guillen. Predicting Buehrle to sign with the Marlins is a bit of a leap, but not because of money. Buehrle, by all accounts, is an outdoors, Midwest, hunting kind of guy. Miami is not the Midwest. It is far from being like the Midwest. Nevertheless, Buehrle would not have come down here if he had not been interested, and there is something to Guillen being here. The Marlins will certainly have to outbid everyone, and I have a hunch they get it done, because this team sorely needs a left-handed starter and starting pitcher is our biggest need to compete with Philadelphia and Atlanta's rotations. As for the other spot, Volstad will have the upper hand going into Spring Training, but Sanabia could give him a run. Hand might be another year away, and I would hate to see him called up too early like Sean West. Vazquez is the odd man out, because he will either retire or be out of the Marlins' price range. Prediction: Buehrle and Volstad. Price: $18 million total.

The only infielder from the list I see making the team is Matt Dominguez. His bat is unproven at best and terrible at worst. But, he will save runs with his defense, which should make up for any offensive deficiencies. I say Dominguez is the only one who will make it, because the flexibility of Infante and Bonifacio, and the fact Morrison can play first base if called upon, means the Marlins can carry and extra outfielder. Prediciton: Dominguez. Price: $400,000 (or whatever the minimum is this year).

This means three spots are left for outfielders. There are some interesting players available, including former Marlins Pierre and Ross, a former Rookie of the Year, and the highly touted Cuban defector. Mattison is an interesting candidate, and I think he'll get his chance in Spring Training, but ultimately the Marlins will turn to experience. Cousins has shown flashes of talent and Coghlan is a proven hitter who needs to rediscover his stroke. That leaves one more spot. If the payroll can be stretched a bit, the Marlins can sign Cespedes and not exceed the projected payroll by more than $5 million or so. But this is the Marlins we're talking about and until proven otherwise, will not exceed payroll projections. The Buehrle signing means Cespedes is out of our price range and we have to turn to our old friend, clubhouse leader, and fan favorite, Cody Ross. Prediction: Cousins, Coghlan, Ross. Price: $3 million.

Total Projected Payroll: $85.5 million.

Now, let's look at the potential starting lineup with the team just constructed:

CF- Bonifacio 2B- Infante SS- Ramirez RF- Stanton LF- Morrison 1B- Sanchez C- Buck 3B- Dominguez P- Starter

Starting Rotation: Johnson, Sanchez, Buehrle, Nolasco, Volstad

Closer: Broxton

Relievers: Mujica, Dunn, Choate, Webb, Cishek, Badenhop

So there you have it, a team that I consider competitive in the National League East. The Marlins are able to stay within their budget and field a balanced lineup, a starting rotation with four proven and productive starters, and a bullpen that returns the best players from last year's bullpen and a closer that has dominated in the past. If Broxton were to fail, I have faith that an in-house replacement can be found and another reliever signed or called up from the minors. The Marlins can compete this year and prove to everyone that last year was a fluke. This roster is attainable and able to keep the Marlins in the race for the Wild Card and with a little luck, the division until the end of the year.

I hope you found my inaugural post to be informative. If you want my thoughts on the Marlins, Dolphins, or anything else that pops into my head, follow me on Twitter at @RyanEMichaels. Until next time, go Marlins!

Poll
Will the Marlins sign either Pujols, Fielder, or Reyes, and how many of them will they sign?
One- The Marlins can fit it into their budget.
96 votes
Two- They'll sign two and there's NO WAY we backload the contracts and trade them later
43 votes
Three- I live in fantasy land
13 votes
None- You bring up good points.
21 votes

173 votes | Poll has closed

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Great work

We’ll be covering this information as the weeks progress, but generally I agree with your cautious optimism. Having said that, the amount of buzz from all news sources (not just the weird illegitimate ones) has me in belief that the team can sign one of these free agents and still have possible room for Cespedes.

Arbitration-wise, the Marlins project to be committed to almost $67 million if they held onto everyone except the non-tender candidates (Hensley, Oviedo, etc.). We’ll have more on arbitration with Chris on Wednesdays.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks

I appreciate the promotion. It means a lot.

by UFGator87 on Nov 14, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see one...

Pujols – Probably not. Very expensive and his team just won the World Series. He’s not likely to leave a contender for a perceived non-contender without an extra few bucks.

Fielder – Probably not. His team made it for to the NLCS and we’d need to pay him the same extra premium as Albert to lure him to the reigning cellar dwellers.

Reyes – Him I think we have the best chance with. He’s not an incredibly huge name, and the Mets have been dysfunctional for a while. The promise of rejuvination might be enough to sway him.

Marlins in the off-season. Get some... Free agents, that is.

by marlinsfan315 on Nov 14, 2011 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

MAYBE one.

And that one is Reyes. Pujols will resign with the Cards, and Fielder will go for some outrageous amount that he’s probably not worth.

Teams might be scared of overpaying Reyes given his injury issues, and don’t want to bank on his most recent year being the “norm” for Reyes. The Marlins may well make the best offer, and give him a chance to redeem himself the way Ivan Rodriguez did in 2003.

by Jigokusabre on Nov 14, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Third base?

U didn’t put a third baseman on the roser

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by finzrule on Nov 14, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Reyes most likely

I think our best shot at a “name” free agent has to be Jose, and from what I’m reading, he really likes it down here…let’s get it done

by CharlieHough on Nov 14, 2011 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

I do not think the team above will be competitve enough

Having an inconsistent bullpen has cost us many wins in the past, and will continue to do so. While the rotation will likely be pretty solid from that group, the lineup is virtually the same as the one that produced one of the worst offensive totals in the league last year.

These problems wont just go way unless we address them. While I might be ok with taking a chance on Broxton, especially since i dont believe a closer is really worth 7 mil a year, I dont think we can afford wasting a lineup spot on Dominguez and his below average to terrible bat. My ideal lineup would be:

Reyes SS
Infante 2B
Hanley 3B
Stanton RF
Sanchez 1B
Morrison LF
Buck C
Bonifacio CF

The cuban defecter is an interesting option, but I’d be willing to give Boni a chance as the everyday CF if he could continue the succes he was having last year. Also, I do believe Buhrle must be signed. a solid LHP is a must.

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by Gatorfan4life on Nov 14, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

What about Dominguez's above average to excellent glove?

That stands to make up a good deal of value back for his bat supposedly. I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but the fact that Dominguez is supposedly a Gold Glove defender at the position already must be considered when discussing his value.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If he hits below .260 or so(which it seems like to me he is very capable of doing)

I do not believe the defense can make up for it. Marlins need offense. sticking a bad bat in a position thats usually considered a spot for a good hitter, only hurts us further.

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by Gatorfan4life on Nov 14, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

In addition

The only time He has hit more then .260, was his on season in class A ball. the rest of his years, were quite bad. he has shown some average display of power capability, but I believe his average is a much better indicator.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=doming001mat

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by Gatorfan4life on Nov 14, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't use batting average

It tells you very little about a player’s full hitting capabilities. For reference, Dominguez is a career .255/.325/.418 hitter in the minors, and he most recently hit .255/.312/.438 in Triple-A, which is worth about the same

If Dominguez hits .250/.310/.380 (about what Omar Infante did last season) and is a +10 run defender or better (Gold Glove level, about what Omar Infante is estimated to have done last season), he would be at least a league average player (2 Wins Above Replacement). If you have a good glove, you can make up for having a bad bat, and Dominguez might be able to. The question is whether you think he can hit .250/.310/.380 (which is a pretty low bar to set) and whether he really is that good at 3B.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I see the perspective

But, Isn’t 3B usually the 2nd easiest position to fill as far as a bat? The difference between Infante and Dominguez is
A – Infante is proven and last year was a down year as far as batting
B – There are much fewer good 2B like Infante than 3B like Dominguez.

by PhinPhan910 on Nov 14, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily true

If you look historically, teams actually expect about the same offensive performance from third basemen and second basemen, so scarcity should not matter that much. Its been found that the spectrum is generally the following (from expecting most to least offense):

1B > LF / RF (slight lean towards LF now, I believe) > 2B/3B/CF (you may expect a bit less offense from CF, but not much) > SS > C

So again, the question comes down to "do you think Dominguez can hit .250/.310/.380 and is he a Gold-Glove defender at 3B? Scouts say yes to question 2, but question 1 is still up in the air. I think it’s doable, but I’d like to see him in Triple-A to start in 2012 before going to him if necessary.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Budget constraints

You bring up a good point about Dominguez’s bat, and it is one that I considered. However, his defense is considered excellent and nearly Gold Glove-caliber already. This adds to his value and will help pitchers such as Volstad and Buehrle, who induce a lot of contact. His bat doesn’t have to be league average for him to have value.

That being said, I would agree that having Reyes instead of Dominguez would be better for the team. The problem is, the Marlins operate in a world of financial constraints that prevent us from realizing ideal scenarios. Perhaps the Marlins do sign Reyes, but that means we probably couldn’t sign Buehrle, convince Vazquez to resign at a discount, or even afford someone like Edwin Jackson. The pitching staff would be wrecked.

My lineup assumes Ramirez returns to form, Stanton and Morrison take steps forward, and Dominguez hits no worse than slightly below replacement level while providing a huge boost on defense. These are attainable goals that should produce wins and keep the Marlins competitive.

by UFGator87 on Nov 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

The problem is that, as has been mentioned, that was the Marlins' team last season

And last season they weren’t on the cusp of competitiveness. I had them as a .500 ballclub before 2011 began with Dominguez playing at 3B, and he hasn’t gotten any better. And that was before Ramirez’s collapse season made his projection more likely to be a 4.5 win player rather than a 6 win player.

Granted, some guys have also improved, so that needs consideration, but the outlook you put up may be a bit on the rosy side to say the team is “competitive,” at least in terms of playoffs.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

If the marlins want to reach the competitive plateau, they are going to have to open up the wallets a bit more then they plan. throwing out the same team will only seal the marlins fate, as excitement will be lost quickly, and attendence levels will drop with it. This is the marlins one chance to really change the culture in miami.

GO:Gators, Dolphins, Heat, Marlins, and Yankees
he who fears losing, has already lost
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by Gatorfan4life on Nov 14, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Defining competitve

The Marlins’ final record certainly tells us they weren’t competitive. But, they were able to win their fair share of games until the June collapse. During the first two months of the season, Johnson was injured and Ramirez was totally ineffective. Granted, Gaby Sanchez was hitting like he deserved to be on the All Star team and Morrison hadn’t completely collapsed yet, but the Marlins were still able to win. I think Morrison is closer to the hitter we saw in the beginning of the year than the middle and end (I base that on his performance in the minors and after his call up in 2010) and Stanton should likewise improve his strikeout rate, and thus, become a more valuable hitter (If you want to check out Fangraphs’ analysis of this, follow the link http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/stantons-strikeouts-next-season/).

Since the Marlins won the World Series in 2003, the NL Wild Card winners have won 92, 89, 88, 90, 90, 92, 91, and 90 games, for an average of 90.25 wins. So, let’s say it takes 91 wins to get into the playoffs. This is not an insurmountable number. A return to norm for Johnson and Ramirez will mean an additional 8 wins (at least theoretically). Add in an improvement from Morrison and Stanton, and suddenly we’re in the conversation for the Wild Card. I never guaranteed we could win the wild card, but we certainly position ourselves well. My projections may hinge on health and expected improvement from youngsters, but I believe it is doable.

by UFGator87 on Nov 14, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh it's not insurmountable certainly

But if you build an 81-win team (which I think the Marlins are if the team uses the same club from last season + Buehrle rather than Vazquez), you’re going to have to have some things fall your way to get up to Wild Card-ish levels. It certainly might happen; one standard deviation for wins in a given season is about 6 wins, so a handful of true-talent 81-win teams end up with 87 wins. But the team would need more luck.

And in addition, what Gatorfan says also plays hold. The team might have to spend just to convince people to watch. I get that you were trying to work within the confines of the $85M payroll though, so this exercise was a “bad situation” scenario for the team.

by Michael Jong on Nov 14, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I have an insane hypothetical

I know this will never happen, but how many wins would we be projected for if we get Pujols, Fielder, Reyes, C.J. Wilson, and trade Hanley for another starter.

by PhinPhan910 on Nov 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

Where would Pujols and Fiedler play?

only one could play 1st, and neither can play any other position. Since we play real baseball in the NL(without the DH), that would be impossible.

but assuming it WAS possible. I’d say we would have the best team in the National League.

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he who fears losing, has already lost
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by Gatorfan4life on Nov 14, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek

That’s why I added the living in fantasy land comment. Obviously we wouldn’t sign both Fielder and Pujols, but the entire article was about how we are unlikely to sign either, despite both of them being rumored as potential signees.

by UFGator87 on Nov 15, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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