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Hanley Ramirez benched for dogging a play

Hanley Ramirez may have set a new low for himself when he dogged a play in the second inning.

Here is the setting:  In the second inning the Diamondbacks had runners on first and second when Tony Abreu hit a bloop single that landed between Hanley Ramirez and Chris Coghlan.  In Hanley's pursuit of the ball he kicked into the left flied corner.  To this point, that's okay; it happens.  But what follows is not okay.  Hanley proceeded to chase the ball in a SLOW JOG, while the Diamondback runners circled the bases.

After the inning was over Fredi Gonzalez had a conversation with Hanley and took him out of the game.

Everyone who saw the play knew that Hanley just dogged it.  It had nothing to do with the foul ball off the shin in the first inning.  He just didn't care to put forth any effort.  Fredi did absolutely the correct thing in taking Hanley out of the game.  His little jog to go get the ball was inexcusable.  I realize there are Hanley apologist in the blogosphere, but there is no defense for this play.

Hanley has a history of showing an attitude of being indifferent to the team.  He was called out by Dan Uggla last season, which was the first time Hanley's lack of concern for the team was made public.  But honestly, that wasn't the first time he had displayed a prima donna attitude, and doubtful the first time he has been questioned.

Personally, I was happier with a gimpy Brian Barden at short for the rest of the night.  At least he is going to try.

Hanley Ramirez has all the physical tools to be a great player.  Maybe he has the potential to be best presently playing the game today.  But if he is going to be all about Hanley and not about the team winning, then there is a major problem.  Ramirez will never be a team leader in the clubhouse when he constantly displays a lack of effort.  No one follows someone who doesn't give a sh*t.

Clark Spencer put forth the following question on his blog:  Is it time to question Hanley Ramirez's heart?

Read the whole post by Mr. Spencer.  

Joe Capozzi has the transcript from the after the game press conference with Fredi.

"Whether he’s hurt or not hurt or whatever it was, we felt the effort wasn’t there that we wanted. There’s 24 guys out there busting their butts. Cody Ross got hit by a ball 95 miles an hour that wasn’t thrown any less slower and he stayed in the game. And battled and got two hits.

"You know what? There’s some injuries there but we expect an effort from 25 guys on this team and when that doesn’t happen we gotta do something."

There are more quotes from Fredi about the Hanley situation in the blog post.

Fredi was right to tell Hanley his night was over.  Now, whether it will make a difference as it seemingly did when Danny called him out last season, I don't know.  But I hope so.

If you didn't see the play, here it is.

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Hanley's hustle?

I respect Fredi for this. Hanley needs to learn to respect the game and his team mates.

by ROADSRUNNER88 on May 18, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

hopefully this turns into a positive, like last year with Ugs…..i defenetly do not want the best player on the squad on the wrong mindset. GO FISH!

Cant stand Jet fans, the Jets suck!!!

by JRuiz2112 on May 18, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Insubordination and this Organization

Jeffery Loria brought down a bolt lightning on Joe Girardi after Girardi told him shut up back in 2006(7?) and he was gone at the end of the season. I only hope that he will stand by Fredi in this case.

That being said, I respect Fredi for doing what he did. Hanley needs to grow up a bit as this is probably the first time he has ever been put in his place. Hopefully this road trip will keep the team from splitting in factions.

by Potlucksports on May 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not a Marlins fan...

and I’m not going to argue whether Hanley was dogging it last night (it looked like he grimaced and pulled up slightly just before the ball landed). But I don’t understand why Fredi would toss around the quotes that he did after the game where he called out other players for their superior effort. It would seem that this will only serve to divide the team, and drive a wedge between the manager and the team’s best player. Fredi Gonzalez is not going to win that fight.

Boom. Outta Here.

by Ryan Gilliss on May 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally siding with Fredi on this one...

Hanley is no longer the sweet kid who showed up to south Florida with a perpetual grin, a contagious youthful exuberance in a beat up car. He is no longer the charming wonder kid. He has become seriously jaded right before our eyes; has become what I loathe most about certain celebrities. Yeah, I’m sure that ball stung like hell when he fouled it off his stilt. But you know what? I bet the “rookie” Hanley Ramirez, earning far less money than he does today would have busted his ass to get to the ball if this same exact play would have occurred when things were simpler.

My lungs still hurt from screaming at the television. Inexcusable. Boo.

by Chin Music on May 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Except...

…what if he really was injured, or at least in pain? And then on top of being asked to do something he wasn’t able to do, his own manager accused him of not trying hard enough? Yeah, I’d be mad if that happened to me. I’d be FURIOUS. And I fear that is in fact what has happened here.

The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.

The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.

by 3.3seconds on May 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry,

but if Hanley was that injured that he couldn’t hustle after the ball, he should not have been playing. Sit him for a couple games, a couple weeks, until he’s 100%. Take care of your assets, not put them more at risk. The season is 162 games long. If you don’t trust your team to win without it’s best players, then what’s the point in playing at all?

Go Nevada Wolf Pack!

by BacksThePack on May 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Taking Hanley out of the game was wise. But insulting him was unnecessary… if there was a message to be got, he got the message. And if this is in fact a matter of physical pain, well, you just avoided an incident.

The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.

The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.

by 3.3seconds on May 18, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no doubt he was hurting

and if you’ve ever fouled a ball like that off a shin or the top of your foot then you just know. But from what I saw on the replay, after watching it multiple times, I don’t think he was incapacitated to that degree. Kicking the ball was an accident. Dogging the rest of the play wasn’t. Nothing will convince me otherwise.

Does anyone even know how to bunt anymore?

by Chin Music on May 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be a little of both.

One part his leg acting up, one part momentary frustration.

The point where I differ is, you don’t need to make a target out of Hanley because he expresses some momentary frustration. Especially given the extenuating circumstances. It wasn’t an incident until Fredi made it an incident.

The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.

The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.

by 3.3seconds on May 18, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he really was dogging it one of the veteran players should take Hanley out to the woodshed for a little old school whoopin.

by Xeifrank on May 18, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

To me this problem comes from ownership

We all know the Marlins were shopping for a new manager in the offseason. Hanley feels he does not have to show Fredi the proper respect because he can just wait for the next guy. On top of that Loria has treated Ramirez like a five year old child by buying him expensive gifts and coddling to his demands. The Marlins are never going to be consistently good with Loria as owner and it has nothing to do with money.

by marlins44 on May 18, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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