Atlanta Braves @ Florida Marlins GameThread, Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT

Open Thread and Ichthyomancy: Braves at Marlins (9/3)

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 6:38 PM EDT Comment 48 comments

Atlanta Braves at Florida Marlins, Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM EDT

Next Game

Atlanta Braves
@ Florida Marlins

Thursday, Sep 3, 2009, 7:10 PM EDT
Land Shark Stadium

Tommy Hanson vs Ricky Nolasco

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 85.

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	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2009 - Ricky Nolasco	9-8	25	25	2	0	0	0	146.0	155	91	86	19	37	147	5.30	1.32

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
2009 - Tommy Hanson	9-3	15	15	0	0	0	0	88.2	79	32	31	9	32	73	3.15	1.25

The Marlins are looking to split the series with the Braves.

Since I'm running incredibly behind, I will let the above speak for itself.

Ichthyomancy is kinda, sorta, ready to go.

Best of Luck to You!

FishStriper	Attendance	Player	AAB
3.3seconds
Architect
BacksThePack
BFFO
Boteman
Brickell
Bronzeagle
Bumppo	15,200	Nolasco	Nolasco: QS, W
C60
Cpmustangs
Colombo
Dan
Dgriot	12,800	NJ	Nolasco: QS, w
DolPhanDave
Fishcrazy	14,320	Cantu	Nolasco: QS
FishFilet
Fishfins
Fluxuation
Franchocaliche
FriedFish
FSUncensored
GameFish	13,750	NJ	Nolasco: QS, W
GMFB
HadMatter
Hoyamarlin
Hurricane	14,009	Coghlan	Uggla: 1+ HR
Jrsyeagle	14,832	Coghlan	Marlins OF: 3+ H, 2+ R
LadyFish	12,500	Uggla	NJ: 1+ XBH; Carroll: 1+ H
MhtD
Miramarjuice
NorthernHaze
Orlando Rays
Pgammons12
Sdsuaztec4
Skronch
Spud	14,500	Cantu	Game: 90+ min. rain delay
Stlcardinalsfan
TabF
Tdk
Tdp992	10,001	Uggla	NJ: 3+ OB
Volstud
Weird Vic
Whalers71
Xenrod

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nice start ricky

by tdp992 on Sep 3, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mabyin looking good???

by JoePa7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

man, these promos for the Cleveland Show are REALLY unfunny.

and considering how unfunny American Dad is, I’m not holding out hope on this one, either.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I actually enjoy american dad

more than family guy…

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm the other way around

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know why

I think family guy crosses my line too many often… but I’m sooner to stop surfing the channels if Family GUy is on over AD… if that makes sense

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand..

also it is true Family Guy has never seen a line it won’t cross

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've never been a fan of family guy

by bronzeagle on Sep 3, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

for shame!

funniest show on tv in my book.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bc!! two nights in a row!

and yet we sent HIM down and kept hermida around

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it begins to show the organization that BC is the right guy

The Player's Commenter

by ocelotfox on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

…ultimately, neither one of ‘em is the right guy. Maybe Carroll as a fourth outfielder, though you’d really rather have a guy who can play CF. (I wouldn’t be shocked if Carroll could learn to do this… he’s a good defender.) But neither one has hit well enough to justify a starting corner outfield role.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 3, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's where I'd want him too

But even as a starter he’s an upgrade from Hermida.

The Player's Commenter

by ocelotfox on Sep 3, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh.

As hitters, they’ve been just about identical this year. Carroll is obviously the better defender. But you also have to take Carroll’s past into consideration — he’s been decent this year, but in 07-08, he was unimaginably awful as a hitter.

I feel like you play him over Hermida because Hermida doesn’t have a future with the team, given that he’s a FA soon, and he’s played enough that you know he’s not that good. Whereas we need to figure out whether Carroll does, and we have him for a couple more years anyway. But as far as what they actually do, I don’t feel they’re that different one way or the other.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 3, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Prime Rib

Medium Rare…

… for all who get a hit this inning

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully O'Flaherty

visited the new Irish Pub in Brickell last night

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

COGS

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The fun keeps coming

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Me gusta

batting around

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So pretty much

it’s a whole different D

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Coghlan's Cowgirls are little more animated tonight

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He's not even in MLB the show

by jrsyeagle on Sep 3, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

even pinto can't screw this one up.

er…at least not easily.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shockingly, the guy with the 3.18 ERA gets out of the inning.

No earned runs allowed. Same way as 47 of his 60 appearances this year have ended.

(Even if he had allowed his season high in runs, we still would’ve been up by 3.)

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 3, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and leo nunez has a 3.86 ERA.

Does that 47-of-60 stat include inherited runners scoring? How many baserunners does he allow? I just took a quick look at his stats over the last week, and he’s allowed a walk in 6 of his last 7 outings. They may not score, but it’s usually not an easy inning.

Admittedly, he’s having a much better season than last year, but i still have little faith in the guy and don’t want him in there in a close game.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, he's walk-prone.

He’s also allowed only 43 hits in 51 innings, of which only 3 were home runs. He walks a lot of guys, but he strikes out a lot of guys, and doesn’t allow the kind of hard hits that drive men in.

I don’t have any data on inherited runners. I do know that opponents’ OPS against him is .700. (This is pretty much exactly in line with his last three seasons.) By contrast:

Calero .512
Sanches .594
Donnelly .631
Meyer .658
Nunez .699
Badenhop .719
Lindstrom .763

Now, relievers and starters can’t really be compared, but Josh Johnson has a .614 OPS allowed. Nolasco has a .760. (By comparison, Hayden Penn allowed a .912, and the much-maligned Luis Ayala an .889 — 1.058 with the Marlins.)

I guess my point is, Pinto isn’t a great reliever, but he’s definitely a very solid one — roughly equivalent to Nunez. Sometimes he’ll allow a run or two, but he’s usually effective, and because his main problem is walks, it’s extremely rare that he’ll get into any kind of big trouble. We don’t want to burn out our top guys in a five-run game, and Pinto is a solid second-tier option, along the same lines as Meyer or… well, Nunez, but that’s another argument.

(I’d actually rather have him in there than Meyer in a situation where we’re up by 5 — Meyer is probably a little better this year, but he’s more likely to give up extra-base hits, and his pre-2009 performance inspires much less confidence than Pinto’s.)

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 3, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did Spud pick Cox: tossed, again:

I hope so.

by craig on Sep 3, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sadly, no. but he could make that pick tomorrow and still have like a 50% change of getting it.

i fail to see why it’s so glorious that a manager misses 20 or 30 innings a year because of ejections, but i guess i’m not a baseball pundit.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is the reasoning that he stalls the game and rattles the opposing pitcher?

Because I can kind of see that.

But only kind of.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 3, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

who knows.

it’s certainly no motivational tactic, as ejections usually are. I just don’t get why no one ever mentions that you might want to have your manager around for the full game. It’s like, “Oh, ha ha, that Bobby Cox, ejected again!” It’s gotten into clownery already.

by Fishcrazy on Sep 3, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs