Brett Carroll and Gaby Sanchez optioned
After last night's game, we heard that Gaby Sanchez and Brett Carroll were optioned to the minors. This brought a scream of disapproval from the back seat by LadyFish, Spud hitting the breaks, a call from GameFish and me saying what did they say.
The Marlins optioned infielder Gaby Sanchez and outfielder Brett Carroll to Class AAA New Orleans after Friday’s game. Right-hander Matt Lindstrom will be activated Saturday from the disabled list, but he won’t return to the closer’s role just yet.
Gaby is understandable since he has just been wasting away on the pine. And anyway, the Marlins just traded for a first baseman, and Sanchez needs more playing time than the Marlins were willing to give him.
Which brings us to the scream, the quick stopping of cars, the phone call and my hopeful but misguided disbelief about Brett Carroll returning to the minors.
So the Marlins are going with two outfielders, Ross and Hermida. And a couple of out of position players, Coghlan and presumably Bonifacio to make a so called run at the playoffs. I don't get this at all.
There was never any doubt when Lindstrom was back to form, and he is, giving up a two run homer in his last outing in the minors, that he would rejoin the team. And if the club feels it needs thirteen pitchers with a 13 game stretch without a break on the horizon , then fine. But I can think of some players who weren't contributing anywhere near as much as Carroll.
The boy just can't catch a break.
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We really shouldn't be having this conversation.
A guy like Carroll shouldn’t even be in the discussion as a major league backup. Well, if he was an infielder, or could play CF, okay. But he’s an absolutely incompetent hitter, and you don’t need a defensive replacement at a corner outfield position. That is just not a thing anyone needs.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
runs is runs
The positional adjustment in right field is -7.5 runs. Being modest, Carroll is a +10 run defensive player in right. That means he could stand to be -2.5 runs at the plate and still be a league average player. That’s roughly a .295 wOBA. Going into the year, his projected wOBA’s were anywhere from .298 to .313; in actuality he has produced a .324 and his updated ZiPS projection is now .311.
All of which goes to say that everything we know about Brett Carroll right now suggests he is a league average player overall. Not replacement level; league average.
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scratch that, actually
was using the wins formula for wOBA, not runs.
-2.5 runs is roughly a .334 wOBA. So everything we know about Brett Carroll right now suggests he is a slightly below average player overall. Above replacement level; a few ticks below league average.
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Perhaps, but...
There’s no real reason to carry more than one backup outfielder. (There’s also no real reason not to, but it’s not at all necessary.) There’s ESPECIALLY no real reason to carry more than one backup outfielder when neither of them is an effective pinch hitter. Carroll has hit well this year by his standards, but he’s not good enough that you’d have him pinch hit over, say, Gload. If you have Carroll on the roster, you also need to have a backup center fielder on the roster, because he can’t do that. So now you have two backup outfielders, and neither one of ‘em is a good enough hitter to pinch-hit. That’s a waste of roster space.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
That much having been said, he's obviously more useful than Wes Helms.
Helms can’t hit OR field. I know there’s a lot of vague talk about “clubhouse leadership”… but seriously? If that matters so much, hire another coach.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

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