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Will Luis Ayala Solve The Bullpen Problems? (hint: um, no)

So JCR is reporting that the Fish have agreed to terms with Luis Ayala, which makes sense since they've been linked to him for quite some time.  As we all know, the Marlins have had a plethora of bullpen problems this season, ranging from overuse to misuse to general sucktitude.  So is this the move that finally puts things in order?  Perhaps the better question is whether it puts anything in order...

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The fact that Ayala has been a much discussed name when it comes to teams looking for bullpen help seems like it should mean he's someone who will, you know, help bullpens.  In a general sense, that's probably true.  His numbers for the last few years have been those of a very average reliever, and if you're looking for help, odds are "average" is better than what you've got.

But there is one number where he has consistently underwhelmed.  You may recall that a particularly handsome and intelligent person started tracking how players' win probability numbers differed from their expected contributions, and how this could be a proxy for measuring "clutch."  That stat has evolved in underlying form but still measures the same thing: how much a player over- or under-performs in higher leverage situations.  And Ayala has underperformed year after year, both in years where that "expected performance" was good and even when it was bad already.

If you don't put stock in WPA stats, look at his splits.  In low leverage situations, batters hit .242/.286/.361 with a 3.14 K/BB ratio.  In medium leverage, they hit .286/.334/.443 with a 3.35 K/BB ratio.  But in high leverage situations, aka in big spots, batters hit .310/.361/.463 and his K/BB ratio drops to 2.38.  In short, fifth or sixth inning?  Put him out there.  Get Pinto out of a jam in the 8th?  Not so much.

OK, but how do we know that's not the Marlins plan already, just shoring up the early relief.  Well for one, you wouldn't go out and get a guy to do that, especially considering the number of so-called "live arms" the Marlins have.  But much more telling are the reports of his last days with his previous team.

As Twins blogger extraordinaire (now national reporter extraordinaire) Aaron Gleeman noted the other day, the reason the Twins DFA'd Ayala is that he wanted to pitch in the eighth inning, and the Twins felt this was, frankly, a bad idea.  The Star-Tribune reported manager Ron Gardenhire's comments as:

He wanted an eighth-inning role; that’s why he signed over here. He wasn’t pitching well enough to be an eighth-inning guy. So there you have it.

His thoughts were if we gave him the ball in that eighth inning, he’d be able to do the job. My thoughts are if you’re not getting them out, you’re not going to pitch in the eighth inning. We’re trying to win. So there’s your difference.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a big part of the reason Ayala is signing with the Marlins is that they promised him he'd get the chance to be that eighth inning guy.  After all, we haven't exactly had the best performance in high leverage situations, so the position isn't locked down.  The problem, as noted above, is that Ayala is almost exactly wrong for such a job.

Heck, when the Twins first signed Ayala, Gleeman broke down why it wasn't a big upgrade for them, ultimately determining his projection as "the fifth-best reliever in a good AL bullpen."  We don't have a good AL bullpen right now, so it's not like he's going to make things worse in terms of who he displaces.  But he's not going to make things any better, and reading between the lines, it would appear the Marlins are just adding another name to the list of guys who just can't get it done.

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Good stuff as always Dan, will be linking on my blog. I am so not excited to see Ayala work. Is there a chance this guy is worse than Pinto, because I really want to see two terrible relievers make it happen in the eight inning for us.

Can anyone pitch a decent reliever in a high leverage situation? Anyone? Can we put the best guy out there when Pinto walks two, gives up a run, and it’s runners at the corners with one out, or is that guy “for the ninth?” Sigh.

by SFiercex4 on Jul 2, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great read

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 3, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for the record:

Scott Williamson won’t help either. At least Ayala has been able to make major league rosters recently.

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by dan 2.0 on Jul 7, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Scott Williamson??

Wow, there’s a name I haven’t heard in, like, 8 years.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 7, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

I like Ayala. I think he’s a fine addition and a better option than bringing up a Tim Wood-type from AAA. He’s a professional, and we need more guys like him on the team. I can’t foresee Ayala being a valid set-up guy, but I am more than comfortable bringing him in with a 2 or 3 run lead in the sixth or seventh inning.

With Kiko back and Nunez dealing, Ayala will work just fine as a back-end guy where the game is out of reach either way.

Go Fish!

by FishFan218 on Jul 21, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, you think he’s better than Wood, but you’d prefer to see him only when you have a 2-3 run lead in a low leverage inning? That sounds like the perfect time to throw Triple-A guys over giving it to a replacement level “professional.”

The point was that he isn’t an upgrade, so why bother adding him? There’s a lot of guys just like him. And if the point is to throw him in mopup duty, why wouldn’t you just throw any random guy not costing you any more? Sure, Ayala will be making the minimum, so it really doesn’t mean anything, but Wood is already making the minimum and would have been just as good.

by SFiercex4 on Jul 23, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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