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It’s Time for a Change at 3B

 

Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs. 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him.  I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field.  He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good.  The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much.  Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power.  Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average. 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point.  These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio.  They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference.  The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it.  Bonifacio just does not have that capability.  All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season.  I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball.  He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September.  Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury.  He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year. 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production.  I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done.  The Marlins are going to need every win they can get.  Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B.  Pull the trigger already! 

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With our super-utility player out for the season, I can definately see moving Emilio to that role. Gaby would have been up all ready if he hadn’t been hurt back in May. However the Marlins clawed their way back in the race without him, and now I fear that they think Emilio is good enough.

I disagree bringing up Maybin though, he wouldn’t start in CF, so we need to keep getting him at bats.

by BacksThePack on Jul 16, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I personally love cody ross at center and he provides a good bat

But maybin is tearing the minors up, the kid got his confidence up again.

Carroll is alot better then Hermida..I say bench Hemida start Carroll. Cody at Right, MAybin in center, and carroll at left. Coughlan at third and bench bonafacio. He isnt producing. But the problem is idk were to fit Gaby…

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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 16, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

make this happen!!!

i think it should be Gaby Sanchez at 3B, Coghlan at LF, Ross at CF, and Carroll at RF (the guys got an arm).. when Maybin comes up then mix up the outfield accordingly. Trade Hermida already for some pitching and put Bonifacio in AAA.. i gurantee we will win more games

by xquiles21x on Jul 17, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

With that anemic offensive performance last night..

We really need a hitter like Gaby in the lineup. Call him up. Trade either Boni or Hermida for a better OF, hitting-wise. Someone comparable to Luke Scott. And then trade the other one (Boni or Hermida) for a solid RP. Cog in LF, Cody in CF, Luke Scott in RF, Gaby at 3B. If our pitchers keep us in the game, a lineup with those players will be able to win a lot more games with the bat. I know Moyer always pitches us well, but 1 hit versus that guy is horrific. We really need to change this lineup. There have been quite a few games lately where we couldn’t produce many hits or runs. With our pitching not living up to our expectations, we need more and more hitting. I can almost count on one hand how many games we have won where we scored less than 4 runs. We need to produce at least 5 runs/game to win with the pitching not dominating like we thought they would. JJ can’t pitch every game.

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by Han The Man And The Band on Jul 17, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Or you know

Just get Luke Scott, lol. And as for trading Boni for anything, it’s not gonna happen. Unless he’s part of a package, no team’s gonna show any interest.

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by ocelotfox on Jul 17, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, who would want a strike out machine

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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 17, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

a lot of people

Striking out in and of itself isn’t all that bad. In fact, absent any other information, I’ll take an anonymous MLB high-K guy than low-K, because in general, with more production comes more strikeouts. Just look at our own division’s guys with more strikeouts than Bonifacio: Uggla, David Wright, Adam Dunn and Ryan Howard. I’ll take those guys eight days a week.

The problem, of course, is that Bonifacio is an out machine, regardless of whether he makes contact.

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by dan 2.0 on Jul 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

He’s shown to have adjusted poorly to a new position despite being there for a half-season, and has yet to prove that he can utilize his speed as a base-stealer. Those tend to hurt his value, at least in terms of trading for proven talent.

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by ocelotfox on Jul 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only anyone could have seen this coming...
Once again let me get this straight, he can’t hit, doesn’t draw walks, is crappy at stealing bases but he can run his bat and helmet back to the dugout faster than anyone else in the majors after a non-productive out? I’m sold.

Also I’m a bit confused on how improving his bunting is going to improve his hitting. Given that he has no power and if he starts bunting a lot, won’t the corner infielders start cheating in and take the bunt away from him?

Maybe I’m missing something.

— craig, Feb. 19



This is disturbing. For some reason the club has it in their minds that there is possibility of Emilio Bonifacio being the leadoff hitter.

Gonzalez said. “Bonifacio is more of an on-base guy who can steal you some bases.”

Fredi, I’m not the king of stats but what in Bonifacio’s past leads you to believe he is an “on-base guy” or that he can “steal you some bases”?

In the majors he has a career .300 OBP, that is Mike Jacobs territory. He has attempted to steal 33 bases and been caught 14 times. Which is, shall we say, a bit shy of the 70% success rate needed to actually help the team instead of hurting them.

I understand he is young and may one day turn into what you dream him to be. But nothing he has done in the majors points to that in the present.

Send him to New Orleans, train him, and then let’s see what he do in a couple of years.


— craig, March 4



Just get it over with already

I’m almost beyond caring at this point. They want to cram him down our throats? Fine. Bat Bonifacio leadoff. Trade Uggla so Bonifacio can shine. Show videotapes of Bonifacio to all minor-leaguers so they can learn about Speed ‘N’ Defense. Hell, re-name the AAA club the New Orleans Bonifacios.

Then, after he’s failed abominably as we all expect he will, the Marlins can sheepishly bench him or trade him in 2011 or whenever and we can move on with our lives.

— Fishcrazy, March 4



If Fredi has his way Emilio Bonifacio will make the 25-man roster.

With Alfredo Amezaga slated to start the season on the disabled list, manager Fredi Gonzalez said if he has his way Emilio Bonifacio will make the team. “For me he is [on the 25-man roster]. He’s played that well and he’s that type of a catalyst.”

All I have to say is: Thank God Fredi doesn’t make these decisions.

Bonifacio may one day be an excellent player, but he isn’t there yet. Given the fact that Amezaga isn’t going to get out of the knee brace until today or tomorrow, if the team wants to keep Bonifacio onboard for a few days at the start of the season, then fine. Though for the life of me I can’t figure out why.


— craig, March 23



Are you kidding me?
Somehow I get the feeling this isn’t entirely Fredi’s decisions, but if this is truly his rationale for inserting Bonifacio as the everyday lead-off, he should have his Sporting News Manager of the Year award revoked. Without even debating the merits of who is in fact the better base-stealer, what a ridiculous basis on which to choose your lead-off man. Is Fredi still living in 1950’s? Has he heard of something called OBP? Geez, even in the 1950’s his reasoning would probably still be considered damn foolish. Either Fredi really believes this crap, and that makes me worry about his competence, or he’s insulting our intelligence by trying to pass off this load-of-crap explanation as legitimate.

— Sashimi, April 4



The Experiment
Hypothesis: By giving extra at-bats to someone who makes outs at the plate, and runs into outs when he does luck into getting on, thereby reducing our total number of at-bats and the number of potential runners for the heart of the order to drive in, we will score more runs.

That is one hell of an experiment. Next up for Professor Gonzalez? "By depriving an organism of water and nutrients, we will give it a longer lifespan."

— dan, April 4



He has over 2000 minor league ABs
And in those minor league seasons, he never topped a .300 translated OBP. His best season was in Tucson with a .288 MLE (.293 Davenport).

In order for him to be an even marginal lead-off hitter, he’d have to make a gigantic leap in skill at the same time he’s making the gigantic transition to major league pitching. A guy who’s used to MLB pitching might have a shot at the skill leap; a guy who’s shown strong on-base skills in the minors might have a shot at the pitching leap. It is unfathomable that someone with neither advantage will overcome both.

And that stands whether he starts off 10-for-20 or 0-for-20, or whatever ridiculous leash Fredi said he’ll give. That’s the most infuriating part of the whole thing. Either you believe he’s capable or you don’t; if you’d change your thinking after a week’s worth of games, you’re not fit to be making the decision either way.

— dan, April 4



Whether it’s batting leadoff or second or eighth, Maybin would still be a starter. Not only that, but considering how highly he’s regarded both now, and perhaps even moreso at the time, nobody can deny getting quote-unquote something for Miggy/Dontrelle.

Bonifacio, on the other hand, if he didn’t get this job from the start, would have had to force his way into the lineup, either from the bench or from AAA. And that’s something that, as I think we’ve established, is unlikely he would have done, especially considering the rest of the talent trying to do the same thing. So without this, it’s likely Bonifacio would never have been seen as any kind of return for Olsen/Hammer.

Now Beinfest can say "Hey, nobody is a sure thing, but we thought so much of him that he was our leadoff guy right away. We thought we got value, but unfortunately these things don’t always pan out." If you don’t give him the job out of training, the average fan never hears the name Bonifacio, and down the road when the trade comes up, it looks like a complete give-away. Which, of course, it was; but at least now Beinfest is saving face. Who cares if that comes at the expense of a couple games early in the season, right?

— dan, April 5


…and those are just the pre-season posts that jumped out with Bonifacio headlines. I think we all remember even more.

It turns out the only thing we didn’t see coming was that this isn’t some “experiment” that would last a few games. In fact, I guess I have to give credit where it’s due: “Either you believe he’s capable or you don’t; if you’d change your thinking after a week’s worth of games, you’re not fit to be making the decision either way.” They’ve definitely proven me wrong there.

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by dan 2.0 on Jul 17, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

wow...
He has over 2000 minor league ABs
And in those minor league seasons, he never topped a .300 translated OBP. His best season was in Tucson with a .288 MLE (.293 Davenport).

I didn’t even remember that one. That’s truly a shocking stat. I knew he was nothing special in the minors, but that’s mind-blowing.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 18, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

my assesment of boni

he has good speed can hit but needs to be more disiplined good arm just throws inaccuratly, good range gets bad jumps when stealing really needs to lay off the high fastball.
I think he for sure has potential but needs to work on about everything that can be tought (Arm accuracy/disipline/reading pitchers) he should be a good chone figgins type player in a few years but for now we should call up gaby.

by bronzeagle on Jul 17, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

It's Lonnnng Past Time

This situation is really starting to piss me off.

Has the front office just given up on the season? Are the Phillies writing our line-up? Does Boni have some dirt on Loria and Co? Is he a professional con artist?

What the hells going on around here!?!

by HadMatter on Jul 17, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm to that point also

Either Boni has to go or Fredi does. It’s just not bearable anymore.

by brickell on Jul 18, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd honestly say it's Fredi's time

He’s mismanaged injuries to key players (the most recent being Cantu), has struggled to put together a coherent and consistent lineup, spent half of the season over-using the bullpen (Calero doesn’t need to make an appearance every day…), and has insisted on using struggling players that clearly need to go down to the minors (Hermida and Boni).

It’s just irritating to see a team with good potential being squandered by poor management.

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by ocelotfox on Jul 18, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed...

I couldn’t have said it better myself.. Fredi Gonzalez has no future with the Marlins as far as I’m concerned and we should cut ties with him asap. Hopefully a new, more knowledgeable coach will do whats right for this team and send down the players that need to be sent down (Bonifacio), bring up the ones that we could use (Gaby Sanchez, Logan Morrison), and trade/get rid of the players that need to go (Hermida). If the Marlins keep Fredi for the rest of this season, they’re throwing away any chances this team has of making the playoffs.

by xquiles21x on Jul 18, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't fault Fredi for most of that. In fact, I think he did a very good job of avoiding disaster.

He overused the bullpen because the starters were awful or hurt for much of the first half. He didn’t cause Nolasco to forget how to pitch, he didn’t hurt Aniba’s shoulder and he didn’t create the farm system that left us with little to no starting pitching depth once Volstad was promoted.

I also don’t fault his ever-changing lineups. In fact, I find it admirable that he’s willing to juggle the lineup to see what works. If certain players were performing to expectations, that wouldn’t be necessary. As for Cantu, I’m not sure if it’s the type of injury that requires a DL stay or if he just won’t be “right” until the offseason. He’s still hitting decently, but it’s almost all singles now. Kiko got himself injured because he kept telling the club he was ready to pitch—the whole macho “I’m never hurt and I can pitch every day” thing. Maybe Fredi should’ve known better, but it’s not like Kiko ever complained about overuse.

But I agree that by this point, we know what we’re getting with certain players, Boner is awful. Hermida is mediocre with the bat, below average in the field. We can do better than that with Carroll. And if not Carroll, then Ross once Maybin comes back up. In the meantime, salvage what little trade value Hermida has and get him out of here.

Keeping the team afloat in difficult circumstances is an impressive feat for a manager. But failure to recognize how to make the team better once the crisis subsides is how people get fired.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 18, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

We seem to like taking Washington's scraps

I’m all for taking their old coach. I’d love to see what he could do with a slightly capable lineup…

by jrsyeagle on Jul 20, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

no thanks

Acta had a pretty decent ballclub, besides the pitching… And he didn’t come close to having a respectable record… I want Leyland back!!!

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by Han The Man And The Band on Jul 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

put a jersey on McKeon and bring him back!

McKeon is a team advisor. I guess it’s possible. Fredi needs to go. I loved how Rich and Tommy were harking on the fact that Fredi told Bonifacio to take on a 3-1 count tonight with bases loaded. I think any little league coach in America saw that coming because they do the same thing when a kid is at the plate who is most likely not going to make contact. It’s sad, really. Fredi mostly looks clueless out there and does absolutely nothing to help this team win. Go Fish!

by FishFan218 on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Emphasis on "besides the pitching"

Runs allowed by the Nationals under Acta (thanks pitching and defense!):

2007: 783
2008: 825
2009: 495 in 87 games

Also, the team’s offense last year was horrific, scoring the third fewest runs in baseball. The other two teams behind them were an even more offensively inept team in San Fran and the equally offensively inept and ballpark challenged San Diego. They even scored less runs than Oakland, and Oakland posted the worst OBP in baseball (I’m assuming when adjusted for park and league, of course). The Nats haven’t had much, and by all accounts Acta is as decent a manager as can be.

by SFiercex4 on Jul 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

woooooo

If you didnt hear before, wooooooooooooooooo

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by Han The Man And The Band on Jul 21, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please, We need Hitters!

Is there another ballclub with a 3rd basemen that has such a low on base %? When on base, Emilio is exciting, but you have to get there first. No need to throw him strikes, his lack of bat discipline has him swinging at anything. Not a big league hitter, and I don’t see any improvement in this area. When playing everyday, there needs to be improvement. Its time already to make some movement at 3rd.

by Excited Dave on Jul 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

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