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Open Thread and Ichthyomancy: All-Star Game (7/14)

 

The starting pitcher for the NL is Tim Lincecum.  The starting pitcher for the AL is Roy Halladay.

The festivities begin at 8:00 p.m.  The game should start around 8:20 p.m.

Ichthyomancy is slightly different in that you won't be making an attendance pick.  What you will be deciding, if you choose to play, is whether the AL or NL will be victorious, the MVP of the game but take heart there will be two other players deemed point worthy other than the actual MVP.  And also, the standard AAB pick is in play.

Since I have no idea what the participation rate will be tonight, your name will be added along with your picks when they are made. Or maybe to more precise, when I get home from work or sometime there after. Once again you do not have to select a Marlin, you can if want, though it is not required.  The points do count towards Ichthyomancy.

Here is the Ichthyomancy pick table:

Star-divide

FishStriper League Player AAB
Bumppo NL Utley NL relievers: 0 R
Fishcrazy NL Pujols Jeter: 1+ H; Lincecum: 0 R
Spud NL Wright Game: PO at home
LadyFish AL Young Game E > 3
Hurricane AL Pujols NL HR > AL HR
Fishcrazy NL Hanley JJ: decision
HadMatter AL A. Gonzalez Hanley: HR
GameFish NL Hanley Utley: 1+ K
Dan AL Granderson Bailey: all K
Jrsyeagle NL Hanley NL wins by 3
Miami Fan NL Braun Lincecum: 0 R; Go ahead run in 8th
Tdp992 NL Hanley JJ: 0 ER

 

 

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NL
Utley (God that’s painful to say)
NL relievers (i.e. pitchers who are regularly relievers): 0 ER

by Bumppo on Jul 14, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

picks

NL
Pujols
Jeter gets 1+ hit, Lincecum gives up 0 R

by Fishcrazy on Jul 14, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

and for the record,

I like that the All-Star Game decides homefield in the World Series. Homefield isn’t life-or-death in the playoffs the way it might be in football or basketball, so it’s not like the stakes are that high. And it’s certainly better than just rotating homefield every year, as was done previously.

The talking heads can insist all they want that the All-Star Game would be just as special if it were still an exhibition, but it’s not true. The ghosts of Carl Hubbell and Pete Rose can only sustain the game so long. Putting homefield on the line adds a level of seriousness not found in any other sport, where all-star games are half-assed and meaningless.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 14, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I get in on this tonight?

2009 Florida Marlins: Year of the Young Guns
#1 Marlin fan from Illinois!

by -Miami Fan- on Jul 14, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Picks

NL
Wright
Someone is thrown out at home plate

by Spud on Jul 14, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

All Star Picks

AL – why fight it
Young
The curse of Dan Uggla continues – game >= 3 errors

by LadyFish on Jul 14, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

giving Bonerface his due... kind of.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/7/14/949376/dont-forget-the-baserunning

Sky breaks down BPro’s baserunning metric (or the cool part of it, anyway: taking extra bases [ie. first-to-third on a single; score from first on a double; etc] rather than SB/CS) and determines that a) the Fish are 2nd in the MLB in runs added via baserunning and b) Bonifacio is tied for 5th with +3 runs.

Even more interesting though, if you check out his spreadsheet, you can see the category breakdown and note that when you include SB/CS, Bonifacio drops to +1 (which of course implies he’s -2 runs just on SB/CS), and your new Marlins leader is… Chris Coghlan? Yep, for while Mr. Coghlan hasn’t quite added a full run in any category, he’s positive across the board.

And to hammer home the point that the Fish are great at baserunning as long as you don’t include SB/CS, you can see that Coghlan is in fact tops on the team in SB/CS runs with a whopping +0.234. Our “best” player in terms of run advancement on stolen bases has contributed less than a quarter of a run. Bonifacio, by contrast, is the worst on the team with -2.231. His basestealing (or lack thereof) has cost the team more than two runs.

Of course, two runs really isn’t much, and in fact, the larger point when you look at the league-wide numbers is just how insignificant baserunning is in the grand scheme of things. But for a team that needs all the help it can get, it is a bit nice to know we are one of only two teams to add a full win via non-SB running.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

other notes of interest

Volstad is the best running pitcher thus far, at +0.65, better than Cantu, Helms, Baker, Paulino and Hermida. That list goes in descending order, which tips you off to Hermida’s unfortunate double: worst non-SB/CS baserunning on the team, and by far (over 2 runs!) the worst total baserunning.

In fact, when you factor in the comparison of Hermida at -3.25 total and BC at +1.07, with their defensive numbers, you could make a strong argument that if Fredi insists on not batting Hermida in front of Hanley, the team is probably better off with Carroll. In fact, that’s an argument not just for BC, but yet another indictment of the Bonifacio infatuation, as it now has gotten so bad that it somehow makes benching the team’s 2nd best OBP a necessary move. The fact that it’s even possible to make that statement makes me wonder if Bonifacio is more than just a terrible player, but rather is a living, breathing act of baseball terrorism.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops...

sorry, meant to attach this to my comment. i should probably stop typing now.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 14, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Presidential Picks

NL
Adrian Gonzalez
Hanley homers

by HadMatter on Jul 14, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

this time it counts! picks

AL
Granderson
Bai-Lero Special: Andrew Bailey Ks every batter he faces

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Pickles

NL
Hanley
NL wins by 3

by jrsyeagle on Jul 14, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

National League
Ryan Braun (yuck)
Lincecum will be lights out…not really a surprise. Final go ahead run will happen in 8th or 9th inning.

2009 Florida Marlins: Year of the Young Guns
#1 Marlin fan from Illinois!

by -Miami Fan- on Jul 14, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

"he's been the I-beam of the rotation"

huh? now there’s great baseball analysis that even the kids will understand.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 14, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

let's go NL!

show Ban Johnson and these young scamps what it’s all about!

by Fishcrazy on Jul 14, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, even if Hanley isn't doing it with his bat

He’s bringing some respectability back to the Florida defense

by Bumppo on Jul 14, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wooo Grandy

that’s the way to back up my MVP vote. Love that man.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

about half hour ago, JCR said

he was still in the dugout and it didn’t look like he’d pitch unless it went to extras

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

can’t decide if that’s good or bad

by LadyFish on Jul 14, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCarverism

“You can make an argument that Kevin Youklis is the most valuable player in the league… I know that’s a little extreme.”

Does this guy even hear himself? Wow.

http://www.shutuptimmccarver.com/

Baseball > Med School

by fishfan24 on Jul 14, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

twice in a row now

Joe Buck has said “there’s the tying run” when the guy gets to third. It kind of made sense with Granderson, since there was only one out, but this time, with two down and strikeout artist Ryan Howard up, it’s far from a tie.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

for those who may not be watching

it’s not so much the phrase “there’s the tying run” but the way he says it, as if it has just happened.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I hate FOX

Nothing but scrambled TV for the whole Howard AB

by FishFilet on Jul 14, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

lots of shots of Hanley doing...

…uh, nothing really. Thanks FOX!

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Sok

so Land Shark stadium will host games 3 and 4 in October (5 if the Fish don’t sweep)

by Fishfins on Jul 14, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the way you're thinking

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

though, I say it every year. But sooner or later I’m bound to be right

by Fishfins on Jul 14, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

PR

now everybody can write about how this is a new era when the biggest play of the ASG is a defensive play by a stolen base guy and not a homer by a guy on steroids. You know that’s at least part of the choice.

Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!

by dan 2.0 on Jul 14, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no doubt you're right and ....

it’s going to end up being: who are going to believe MLB or your lying eyes?

by craig on Jul 14, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

To all future NL team managers:

Do not pick the San Diego closer. Ever.

by Fishcrazy on Jul 15, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Points

The winner of the game was the AL.
A point goes to: Hurricane, HadMatter, LadyFish and Dan.

Players earning a point: Crawford, Granderson and Molina.
A point goes to Dan.

AAB points: unfortunately, no one.

Recap:

Dan +2
Hurricane +1
HadMatter +1
LadyFish +1

Congratulations to all of tonight’s winners! If I missed anyone or anything, please let me know.

by craig on Jul 15, 2009 3:06 AM EDT reply actions  

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