Open Thread and Ichthyomancy: Marlins at Nationals (4/17)
by craig on Apr 17, 2009 3:42 PM EDT
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PrintMiami Marlins at Washington Nationals, Apr 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
The best record in baseball Marlins are in the nation's capital to take on the Nationals.
Since I'm seriously out of time here goes: Ricky will be fine and that may start tonight. Lannan hasn't shown anything he is near capable of doing. Hopefully that won't start tonight.
The road trip continues. Oh, enjoy the game tonight because the next two in the series are day games. Lucky for Architect, not so lucky for some of us.
Ichthyomancy be loving Friday but be running late.
Best of Luck to You!
| FishStriper | Attendance | Player | AAB |
| 3.3seconds | 21,212 | Uggla | Lannan: QS; Marlins: W |
| Architect | 19,720 | Ramirez | Nolasco BB < Marlins XBH |
| Brickell | 15,333 | Hermida | Uh? |
| Bumppo | 22,470 | Nolasco | Nolasco: QS, W |
| C60 | |||
| Colombo | 21,001 | Hermida | Marlins: W by 1 |
| Dan | 24,549 | Nolasco | Nolasco: QQQ inn. |
| Dgriot | 21,800 | Ross | Nolasco: QS, W |
| DolPhanDave | |||
| Fishcrazy | 23,423 | Uggla | Nolasco: QS,W; Lannan: no QS, L |
| FishFilet | |||
| Fishfins | 21,452 | Ross | Dun: 0 H, 2+ K |
| Fluxuation | 16,982 | Nolasco | Marlins: 3+ R in 1st |
| FriedFish | 28,123 | Ramirez | Nolasco: QS |
| FSUncensored | 24,120 | Ramirez | Ramirez: 6+ TB |
| GameFish | 26,047 | Ross | Nolasco: QS, W |
| GMFB | 17,756 | Bonifacio | Nolasco: QS, BB ≤ 1, 6+ K |
| HadMatter | 27,989 | Maybin | Marlins 1-3 H+R+RBI > Nats 1-3 H+R+RBI |
| Hoyamarlin | |||
| Hurricane | 23,229 | Ramirez | Nolasco 0 R inn > Marlins inn. score |
| Jrsyeagle | 24,478 | Hermida | Marlins: W by 4 |
| LadyFish | 23,713 | Cantu | Marlins R > 5 |
| Orlando Rays | 24,776 | Uggla | Nolasco: QS, W |
| Pgammons12 | |||
| Skronch | |||
| Spud | 20,600 | Cantu | Game: R > 10 |
| Stlcardinalsfan | |||
| Weird Vic | 26,792 | Ross | Marlins: W by 4+ |
| Whalers71 | |||
| Xenrod |
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This is just the opening series played again in Washington, isn't it?
21212
Bonifacio?
Lannan QS, but the marlins win anyway.
No-nifacio
We will finally get to see what a Maybin-Baker-Hanley top could look like. For probably 4 ABs each. Which is a good sample size, right Rich and/or Tommy?
Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!
You know, you can say Bonifacio’s start has been a fluke (though people acting like it’s a disaster because he just had “only” three hits in a three-game series… well…), or you can believe he’ll work out. You can say Maybin’s ready, or you can say he’s the modern-day equivalent of Gary Sheffield with the Brewers. But I think we can all agree on one thing: “getting more playing time for Wes Helms” is never a good reason for doing anything.
As always...
pulling for T-Rex to get his first win.
Final 2008 Standings
Abraham Lincoln 49
George Washington 17
Thomas Jefferson 14
Teddy Roosevelt 0
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classic Maybin
poor route, but just enough speed to make up for it
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this isn't what I thought they meant
by “Cameron Maybin is one of the most exciting young players in the game”
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Zimmerman's jersey
Maybe they changed the buttoning after that play a few years ago when he caught the ball in his shirt.
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I dont know
I am about sick of Rick and Tommy. All they talk about is sweater vests, where they are sitting, there producer, the truck… I could go on.
I switched over to DVH
Call the came damn it!
up until now, there wasn't much good to say about the game
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Didn't see it
But when DVH said Willingham was batting, I accidentally was like “Come on, Hammer” for a second.
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
I love
coming home drunk at 2:30am and having some Marlins baseball to watch! At least for today I do. How we been doing? Nolo finding the strike zone any better today?
hmm, i guess not. at least its a 1 run game anyway
by The Architect on Apr 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Craig...
I made a slight typo in my AAB. Just switch “Nolasco” and “Glannon” for me. Clumsy fingers!
hmmm
Apparently there’s no such thing as the Hold A Lead “Hey Dan, We’re Having A Little Taco Night. Come On Over” Run.
Which is good, because that’s a terrible name.
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I just went on a beer run
Didn’t work.
Neither did sittin in the bar for a couple innings.
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
come on Rally Everyone Coming Back To The Open Thread Run
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he was really ineffective tonight.
he had a scott olsen game. i don’t know if it’s time to worry about Ricky yet or if he’s just a slow starter or something.
could be hurt
after 200 innings+ for first time
Catchy
Still think it sounds like an adjective used to describe a body on CSI
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
by the way, i used to love doing that with baseball names...
the best one i came up with was cal ripken junior felix jose canseco.
...
well, I still love me some John Baker.
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no, if it was 2008,
Jacobs would’ve grounded into a double-play before the bases were ever full.
Progress.
Ha, true
Still, there were plenty of times in 2004 and 2005 where the Fish would get em loaded and squander away their chances to score
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
but if it were 2008
I think we would have been given a run, because with Bonifacio on third, the Nats would have 10 men on the field. I don’t know the rule on that, if it even exists.
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just to come back to this
I can’t pull specifically bases loaded, 2 out, but just for bases loaded…
Team OPS+ (compared to all MLB teams)
2008: 80
2007: 92
2006: 74
2005: 147
2004: 136
2005 bases loaded slash stats: .352/.379/.547… wow.
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I was eating tacos, but...
I might could Pitch/FX it and see. I lost like three hours last night playing with Andrew Miller’s start vs. relief appearances.
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or Rich and Tommy could just say that he has
Marlins Stadium: When It's Raining, The Roof Will Happen!
speaking of which
Pitch locations for Miller’s start, by pitch type
linking because it’s large and gets muddled when I resize it.
Anyway, I love that the algorithm called so many types of pitches. Not because Miller actually threw them (the cutter is almost certainly his slider) but because it makes the graphing much more colorful.
legend for the legend: FF = four-seamer, FT = two-seamer, CH = change, CU = curve, FC = cutter, SL = slider
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Pitch FX says...
there was really only one called strike that was significantly up out of the zone. If anything, the zone was wide and low.
The team designation is for pitches thrown, so it’s the Nats who got that high call. Just for reference, the way these umpire charts work is that since PitchFX includes a notation of every individual player’s strike zone, the height of the middle of the zone can be averaged/normalized out; the zone shown is then the average MLB umpire’s zone for that spot. That, and tons more awesome Pitch FX modes of analysis that go far beyond what I can do, can be found at Brooks Baseball.
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Bonifac-hero?
Lines up for Boner Face to hit 3rd in the 9th. Conflicted over how I feel about that.
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Come on!
Come on Marlins! Score some runs!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Don't let them score the runner on second!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
Good job Logan.
Hey, Bonifacio be our hero! Do it now!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah....
John Lannon did better than we thought he would…
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
Joel Hanrahan.
He is pretty good. Hopefully we can hit off him.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
1 Out
Dang…One gone.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Cody Ross.
I say he’s going to strike out. He’s not doing too well against the breaking ball.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Oh!!!!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Home Run!!!!!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Cody Ross
Thank you! Home run! We are back in this!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Bonifacio.
Please get on base. Who’s up next?
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Strike out.
Not what I expected of him.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
Alfredo Amezaga
He is very versatile. He is pretty good at batting.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
He's 3 for 5 against Hanaran.
Pretty good.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
You just become a Marlins fan FSUcensored?
You seem pretty new.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
It's By Him!
Double baby!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Nice!
We might score here! Cameron Maybin is ok.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like Hanaran is slowing down...
He’s not throwing as well…Nervous, maybe?
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Maybin has big lips...
Just noticed he has really big lips.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Groundout
Oh, Nick Johnson picked it. So lucky!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
Alfredo Amezega in CF
Told you he’s very versatile.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
0-2 to Nick Johnson.
Strike him out!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Nunez has beautiful location...
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
I think craig wins
I like the alliteration.
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you pay for a game, not 9 innings.
you’re not getting anything free. the man’s fooling you, and you don’t even know it!
Wonder why Ricky wasn't sharp tonight...
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
win or lose
at least we ruined their fireworks
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nah, i don't like that.
i mean, it’s one thing to lose the game and then watch fireworks. But to not even get the fireworks makes me feel bad for the fans, especially any little kids who were excited to see them.
what about
a double set of fireworks next time? And all you’d have to do is pay more money and sit through another Nationals game…
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Yeah.
Curfew at 10:40!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Base Hit.
Hermida better make something happen…
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Yes!
3-2 lead.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Here we go...
8 minutes to the cutoff… Lindstrom had better make sure those kids get to see their fireworks.
Yay!
Lindstrom can do this! I know he can!
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
Stuck in the wall....
Wow…
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Willingham.
I seem to remember him.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah.
Beautiful throw, Cody.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Wow...
…how do you not swing on that on a 2-strike count?
just got to take down the Attorney General
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2 Outs
So close. I can taste it.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Game over!
We are done! Cya guys.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Woo!
Great game! I’m going to stay up and watch the after-game program about their catching.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
Nunez and Lindstrom.
They did a great job. Have to give them props.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
9-1 start
53rd team to start 9-1 or 10-0. 34th post-1900.
Of the 33 prior, 17 made the playoffs.
Of the 17, 13 made the World Series.
Of the 13, 9 won it all.
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Just don't be Cleveland
Of the 33, 31 finished above .500. The two who wasted their starts?
1966 Cleveland Indians (81-81) [started 10-0]
2002 Cleveland Indians (74-88)
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How many wins would you expect secure a playoff spot. 89?
If that’s the case, we need to go 80-72 through the final 152
Maybe a few more than that.
Last year, the NL had PHI with 92, CHI with 97, LA with 84, and the wildcard was MIL with 90. Mets had 89, didn’t get in.
In ’07, Philly got in with 89… Chicago with 85, and in the West, AZ had 90. Colorado and San Diego were tied for the wild-card with 89, and the Rockies of course won in the one-game playoff.
89 would’ve landed the wild-card by one game in ’06 (but not the division, which went to the Mets with 97), a tie with Houston for the WC in ’05 (one game behind the East winning Braves), and nothing in ’04. (ATL won the division with 96, and Houston edged out SF for the wild-card with 92.) In ’03, of course, the Marlins got the wild-card — 91 wins — and they would have got it with 89 as well.
I say we just go for 100+ wins, and let the other teams sort out margins.
Yeah.
I’m glad the kids who were still there got to see the fireworks. That was cool, I bet.
Dolphins. They think they're so cute. Oh, look at me, I'm a flippy little dolphin, let me flip for you.
by The Dolphins Are Coming on Apr 17, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
Woot!
For hitting AABs. Good on me to call the 1 run win.
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
Did I also happen to get a POG?
Hermida DID drive in the GW run.
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
Points
The attendance for the game was 19,026.
The attendance point goes to Architect.
Players earning a point: Ross, Hermida and Cantu.
A point goes to: Brickell, Colombo, Dgriot, Fishfins, GameFish, Jrsyeagle, LadyFish, Spud and Weird Vic.
AAB points: 3.3seconds, Architect and Colombo +2.
Recap:
Colombo +3
Architect +2
Brickell +1
Dgriot +1
Fishfins +1
GameFish +1
Jrsyeagle +1
LadyFish +1
Spud +1
Weird Vic +1
3.3seconds
Congratulations to all of tonight’s winners! If I missed anyone or anything, please let me know.
the Nationals' smallest crowd ever in Washington...
…came on an early season, Friday night fireworks game against the team with the best record in baseball. I know we aren’t a draw to anyone but ourselves, but still… not a good sign for the Nats.
Picks for Saturday
23,400
Johnson
Johnson: QS, W
Saturday picks
31,493
Uggla
Johnson: QS, W, 6+ K, <3 BB
AC/DC + Tampa Bay Rays = Big Balls on a Budget
Saturday, uh... afternoon... is alright for fighting
26,789
Paulino
Steal Of A Trade Special: Bonifacio SB > Willingham H
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Ichthyomancy Saturday
I’m awake now, so I can tell you I won’t be awake for the game…
28,704
Johnson
Bonifacio with exactly 2 steals.
re yesterday's pick
“Marlins: H+R + 10 ≥ Nats: H+R”
Marlins get at least 10 more “hits + runs” than the nationals do.
Didn’t seem so complicated when I wrote it. Didn’t come in anyway.
Saturday’s pick
22,333
JJ
JJ: W, no earned runs.
Jefferson
"Being a chick blows when you're forced to do torturous things such as
attend baby showers instead of watching the Fish" picks…
24,222
Cantu
Fish: 2+ HR, 0 E
The "The only time I don't like living in Gainesville
is when the town’s culture forces me to watch a glorified scrimmage instead of the Fish" picks
20438
Hanley
Marlins: 2+ SB
I'm doin the Fish again. (Yeah, yeah, yeah.)
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