Optimizing the batting order
I waited until today to post this, considering the stadium vote and all, but is well worth the wait and worth reading.
Our friend Sky broke out his copy of The Book to help us understand what the best batting order would be for the upcoming season.
Optimizing Your Lineup By The Book
Since Sky is a very good writer, you can read his post very quickly. And you should read it.
Now, the question is: given your new found knowledge, what should the Marlins batting order be.
Yeah I know, who wants to do homework. But give it a shot at playing the Marlins manager for a day.
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I'm curious to see how the actual projected lineup compares to the optimal lineup...
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
Sure, I'll give it a go...
Though with the caveat that I have been known to view a number of guys fairly differently than the rest of the people here.
1) Hanley - sort of similar to the problem with Pujols: he’s so good at so many things, he’s the best choice at a number of slots; so all things being equal, I’ll give him the most PAs cue the outrage… I still say he’s a top-3 OBP and wOBA guy in this lineup. Both he and Uggla would be able to leverage their strikeouts here, but I think the OBP difference is greater than the K difference.
2) Hermida -
3) Uggla - based on the combination of ISO and Ks, however… …there’s no obvious distinction between the third- and fourth-best hitters.
4) Ross -
5) Gaby - having put Uggla at 3 instead of 5, I basically just looked for OBP here. The lack of Ks should also help, what with the likely men in scoring position. speed in front of singles
6) Maybin -
7) Baker — hello singles
8) Pitcher
9) Cantu
The problem with Baker on either side of the Pitcher is that it presents consecutive lefties if McPherson were to pinch. And considering the relative importance of lineup optimization and separating lefties, that may actually change things. I dunno, this is a tough lineup for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that guys like Gaby and Maybin and Baker haven’t established their talent levels and peripherals at the MLB level. Perhaps more than any team in baseball, I’d say the morale of guys re: their spot is likely more important than the handful of runs gained by optimizing. And yes, I really did just promote an intangible over analytics. First people give Samson props, now this… the world may end before we ever get to the new stadium.
I’d also note that there are a number of guys with significant splits, so things may be much clearer doing RHP and LHP lineups. I may take a shot later tonight.
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I have no idea what the deal is with those strikethroughs. Did something change with the way SB interprets dashes while I was gone? Still readable though. Just be sure to note that, no, I’m not doing any sarcastic purposeful strikethroughs.
dashes are disaster in 2.0 -- don't use them in the text body. sucks for negative numbers, too.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
split lineup attempt
Obviously if, as I said before, optimizing the lineup is made more difficult by having so many guys with unestablished talent levels and peripherals, that difficulty is magnified many times over when working with splits. But I’ll give it a go anyway…
vs. RHP
1) Hanley
2) Hermida
3) Cantu
4) Uggla
5) McPherson
6) Ross
7) Maybin
8) Pitcher
9) Baker
Initially I had Cantu and McPherson switched, but McPherson gets moved to separate from Hermida.
vs. LHP
1) Hanley
2) Gaby
3) Uggla
4) Ross
5) Cantu
6) Hermida
7) Maybin
8) Pitcher
9) Baker
I don’t know exactly what to make of Cantu coming out at 3/5 here and 9 in the single. I mean, I know that I didn’t see much of a drop from Cantu to Baker, and so I felt ok putting Baker at 7 and Cantu 9, to combine Maybin’s speed and Baker’s lack of power. But even thinking about Cantu as a 7 in the single vs. 3/5 split is odd. Looking back over things, I think this is an interesting side-effect of everyone else’s splits. With so many guys who have significant splits (the Gaby/McPherson swap, Ross vs. lefties, etc), Cantu stands out as being steady against both. So while a few guys drop because of their splits on one side, and a few guys drop on the other, Cantu rises on both sides.
Whatevs. Just an exercise anyway, right? Besides not really mattering in terms of runs produced, it literally doesn’t matter because I’m not called upon to write the lineup card. So I’m content in saying that this is how it would come out based on my numbers, but garbage in/garbage out, so your results may vary.
maybin
I’d love the idea of batting him 9th so he can hit in front of Hanley. At least until he proves himself as a major leaguer.
For the numbers guys… With the 1,2,3 combination coming up to start the game and the #9 getting a lot of 3rd outs potentially, does that make it the most common innings starter or does it come out fairly uniform over the year? Is it significant enough that the 9 to 1 transition isn’t as important?
leading off
I don’t know the actual numbers for leading off an inning, but we can sort of do it by proxy with the percentage of PAs with 0 outs and the percentage of PAs with the bases empty.
In terms of outs, you basically have the leadoff spot (48% from 99-02), everybody except 1 and 3 (33-35), and the 3 spot (28). Which makes intuitive sense, when you think that the 1 leads off 100% of 1st innings, the 3 is the least likely to lead off the 2nd, and everything sort of comes out in the wash from there.
In terms of runners, you basically have the cleanup spot (51% of PAs coming with runners on), everybody except the 1 and 4 (44-48), and the leadoff spot (36).
Which, taken together, suggests that indeed the 1 leads off significantly more times than anyone else (of course, it’s the only spot assured of leading off an inning every game). But since the progression through the lineup is dependent on the quality of the hitters in each spot, presumably if everyone batted the pitcher 8th, we’d see the 1 come back a bit in both cases (outs and runners).
I did have a similar thought though, in that 5th bench thread, having someone like Raynor bat 9th, Maybin 1 and Hanley 2. And there’s plenty reason to think that I’m wrong in giving Hanley the 1 due to the PA gain and despite the RBI loss. I know the new Bill James book singles out Hanley batting leadoff as the most RBIs lost last year. I dunno, I suppose somebody could really put this all to bed with a few Markov simulations, but I know that person isn’t me.

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