Chris Coghlan Named NL Rookie of the Year

by GameFish on Nov 16, 2009 2:37 PM EST in News Comment 15 comments

The Baseball Writers Association of America has spoken, and we can all breathe a collective sigh of relief. Chris Coghlan is the 2009 NL Rookie of the Year.

Florida Marlins outfielder Chris Coghlan is the National League Rookie of the Year, and Oakland Athletics closer Andrew Bailey is the AL winner.

Coghlan edged Philadelphia Phillies pitcher J.A. Happ in a close race, receiving 17 first-place votes and 105 points Monday in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Happ, the only player picked on all 32 ballots, had 10 first-place votes and 94 points.

All is right with the world (or at least with this one tiny part of it).

Congratulations, Chris!

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I'm more than happy to see Coghlan win it, from a fan's perspective

But let me be the Marlins fan that says that this was not the right choice by the BBWAA. Let the flaming begin!

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by SFiercex4 on Nov 16, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Read your post

I couldnt disagree more. No one performed as consistently with as much impact as Coghlan (other than maybe Happ). Coghlan batted .321 for the season. .321!!!!. How much more do you want the kid to do?

by GMFB on Nov 16, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

IMO

Late season stats mean more than early season stats, especially when you’ve gotten better as the season progressed. Coghlan was the ONLY logical choice.

Go Nevada Wolf Pack!

by BacksThePack on Nov 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I feel like Hanson has a better case than Happ.

But… eh, I don’t know. I tend to discount pitchers a bit in ROY voting unless it’s unmistakable, just because it’s easier for a rookie pitcher to fool batters. Nobody knows about the guy yet.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Their basic numbers are pretty much identical but when you look at FIP it’s not even close… 3.50 for Hanson compared to Happ’s uninspiring 4.33… McCutchen’s really the only other player who had a case against Cogs I think.

by tdp992 on Nov 16, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

McCutchen actually has a pretty decent case...

…to me, 70 plate appearances and .030 OPS outweighs 14 steals and… I assume McCutchen was a better defender? The stats seem to suggest it.

But if McCutchen played for the Marlins and Coghlan for the Pirates, I’m not sure I’d see it the same way.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 16, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Apperently Cutch had a huge advantage defensive wise

CC playing in LF the whole year killed his defensive value. Say we had put him at 2B though instead of LF and and manages to put up average UZR numbers there… Then I think it would’ve been a lot more clear cut showing Coghlan as the better player in 2009.

by tdp992 on Nov 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know... all I know is, they'd better get Coghlan back to second ASAP.

I’d accept third, if it comes to that. But he’s not going to hit like this forever… and even a .320/.390/.460 guy isn’t remarkable for a corner outfield spot.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 16, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is true. But Coghlan didn't play second, he played left.

I can only give him credit for what he did (or probably did, since UZR has big error bars single-season).

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by SFiercex4 on Nov 18, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's been sort of the problem in analysis of this that I have seen

How can we determine what those numbers are worth if they’re not in the same units? How much better defensively was Cutch or Coghs?

Everything needs to be put into runs. It’s as simple as that. Otherwise, you may have some people saying 70 PA and .014 OPS (.850 for Coghs vs. .836 for Cutch, similar park factors) is better than defense and 14 steals, and someone else can make the exact opposite claim and be just as justified.

I don’t know, maybe I’m just “a numbers guy.”

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by SFiercex4 on Nov 18, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs