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Fangraphs looks at the Marlins Minors


Fangraphs takes its usual offseason look at the minors and the Marlins were early on the slate.

Prospect ranking season is here. Top 10 lists will be arriving shortly and in preparation for that, we present an intro series looking at some of the players who deserve mentioning but probably will not be appearing on their teams’ Top 10 lists. The series is back for a second year.

Give it a look see, they got most of it right, in my opinion.  Except the Coghlan defense thing, there is such a thing known in this world as context.  A concept that seems to elude them.  But it is good overall.

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Craig, are you referring to the oft mentioned "He learned the position on the fly?"

If you are, does that change the fact that he didn’t do well in the outfield? I think most people understand the context, but it doesn’t change what he did (or at least appeared to do based UZR and its error bands)

by SFiercex4 on Nov 13, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He got better at the position as he played it more...

he was a rookie playing in the outfield for the first time. And that should be taken into consideration in my opinion. Good young players learn as they go along. If you want to apply even weights to a rookie season, that is fine. But I don’t.

This isn’t evaluating a veteran moving from third to first and getting the benefits of spring training, this is a rookie who made a change during the season. I make allowances for improvement, others do not, apparently. No big deal.

by craig on Nov 13, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but I think this particular article was talking about what he did.

Not what he might do in the future — what he actually did in 2009. And what he did on defense wasn’t that great.

Not that it makes that much difference to me — I simply don’t believe in fussing about corner outfielders’ defense.

(Then again, the flip side of that is that I see the corner outfield as a virtually solely offensive position, which means that I want to see a more threatening hitter than Coghlan there. Well, unless Coghlan can somehow continue his second-half ‘09 pace, in which case he’s more than threatening enough and can play wherever he wants. Or unless he suddenly sprouts HR power.)

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Nov 13, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the crux of what I was saying is that...

using UZR/150 is a pretty lazy way to evaluate his performance in the outfield.

But I completely agree that spending much time on discussing the defensive capabilities of a left fielder isn’t really very productive.

by craig on Nov 14, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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