Chum Bucket

by craig on Jun 23, 2008 9:17 AM EDT in News

The Marlins are returning home from a 4-5 road trip. Which ain't that bad. While the Marlins were on the road they gained some ground on the Phillies are now only one back in the standings.

Tomorrow the Rays come to town and we a favor to return.

In the meantime, we have a Chum Bucket, where all is fair game.

If you so desire you can talk about Wimbledon, personally I will be watching the College World Series and cheering for Fresno State. Nothing against Georgia but everyone likes an underdog. But perhaps, you would like to discuss something else, then go for it. And who knows, maybe someone will join in on the conversation. (Note: if you really want someone to join in, bring something up about the Marlins. It is always a crowd pleaser.)

Have a Great Day!

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Let's talk trades

Who do you want that is either a) pretty much available now or b) will be soon once the team decides to start selling off vets?

And who would be given up to get those players?

I think we need a veteran starting pitcher and a CF who bats leadoff. Looking around the league, McLouth from PIT (mentioned in a fanpost), or Coco Crisp (Boston wants Elsbury playing everyday), would probably be a decent pickup. As far as pitching, Sabathia is an ace, but he won’t be shopped until Cleveland decides they’re out of contention, and Zack Greinke from KC may be available… What does everybody think?

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 23, 2008 12:13 PM EDT 0 recs

Well

Any top-tier pitching is out of the question. It’ll be too costly. Our FO just won’t do it.

Also, the catcher market is crap and there isn’t anybody attainable that’s an upgrade over Treanor. The truth is, most catchers suck at the plate. Big whoop, write it off.

Center field is a pretty thin market as well. I think Cody will eventually find some consistency and be a solid hitter at the bottom of the lineup, which is fine. He’s pretty good defensively in center as well, so I don’t see the need for an upgrade there.

Add a decent starter and a few bullpen arms and we’ll be set. We don’t need any more bats, a consistent bullpen is much more important right now, and is something we don’t have. At this point, I don’t trust a single arm in the pen, save for Nelson in the 7th or 8th.

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by Matt Wilson on Jun 23, 2008 1:00 PM EDT 0 recs

I don't think they leverage the future for a CF

I think the McLouth rumor was kind of crazy to begin with, but I don’t see the Marlins trading much to get a CF when Maybin’s on the way. Assuming Maybin doesn’t totally crap out on his way to the majors, anyone we’d trade for would be little more than a one-year stopgap.

If we were actually considering a trade for Coco Crisp, we might as well just put Amezaga in center instead. They basically hit the same, and at least we could save our prospects.

Any available starting pitching will be extremely overpriced (as it always is). I’d assume the Marlins would wait to see how Josh Johnson does before even thinking about a trade. Getting Johnson back healthy and in good form is better than a trade anyway. And don’t forget, Sergio Mitre is supposed to be back in August.

So if everything works out, then the Marlins would have a rotation of Olsen, Nolasco, Johnson and Miller, with Mitre/Hendrickson getting the last spot. That’s not bad at all, even if it is perhaps overly optimistic. (And I’m still holding out hope for the return of BK Kim.)

I’d have to agree with Matt that of all things, another bullpen arm would help, especially given how short our starters often go.

by Fishcrazy on Jun 23, 2008 4:01 PM EDT 0 recs

BK

It’s inevitable.

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by Matt Wilson on Jun 23, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

Don't forget Anibal

by brickell on Jun 23, 2008 4:19 PM EDT 0 recs

You are correct, sir.

For some reason, I was thinking he’d be back in 2010, but he’s actually scheduled to return in July, before Mitre.

Of course, having a bunch of starters returning from major surgeries at the same time may either be a huge boost to the rotation, or a grisly scene as they all take their lumps for a while.

by Fishcrazy on Jun 23, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

true

I just think we have a few nice pieces that aren’t playing everyday that could be moved for 1 good starter, whether it be a pitcher, bullpen, or a guy in the field. Helms doesn’t play very often because of Jacobs and Cantu at the corners. And between Ross, Hermida, Gonzo, Willingham, and Amezaga, we could probably package a couple to get a very good player. Or jus keep Amezaga in the utility/bench role, and let Gonzo play when the matchups dictate.

I definitely hope Sanchez and Johnson can be front of the rotation starters, because Miller isn’t exactly Ace material just yet, but he could be our new D-Train circa 2003 – our 3rd starter who gets hot and shuts the opponent down when he pitches….

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jun 23, 2008 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs

Tuesday's picks

11,124
Uggla (can he please bat in the 4th spot, I mean he’s only leading the league in HR)
Marlins IF HR > Rays team HR

Build a stadium downtown and I'll buy season tickets

by hurricane on Jun 24, 2008 7:58 AM EDT 0 recs

Tuesday's Picks

15450
Hermida
Fla wins by 4 or more runs.

by c60 on Jun 24, 2008 8:50 AM EDT 0 recs

McLouth

I don’t see this being a deal that makes much sense for either team. If Pittsburgh makes a trade, I would expect the other two OFs to be moved, Nady and Bay.

Besides, doesn’t Florida need a front of the rotation starter more than another outfielder? If the team expects to be in the mix in September, moving Hendrickson and Badenhop out of the rotation seems critical. San Diego’s Greg Maddux would be a great acquisition for the Fish.

by c60 on Jun 24, 2008 9:05 AM EDT 0 recs