Chum Bucket

by craig on May 5, 2008 8:42 AM EDT in News

The Marlins have the day off while we are waiting for the Brew Crew to come to town.

So we get talk about anything we would like. It doesn't have to be baseball, but I will very surprised if another topic takes hold.

I do have a question: Treanor is a better defensive catcher than Rabelo, or at least that is my observation, he has a better batting average and an higher OPS, not to mention a better CERA (catcher earned run average). (Granted, CERA isn't a very good stat.) And he has thrown out more than two times the runners than has Rabelo. The question is: why is he only catching on Sundays?

That's my question, feel free to come up with your own. And who knows -- maybe you will get an answer.

It's a Monday, and there is no Marlins game today, so this will be tough but..... Have a Great Day!

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AAB

How’s the review going on Dan Uggla’s 2 HR’s?

by brickell on May 5, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Rabelo

I keep looking and questioning the cathcing decision too but I thought I might have had it down to a science. It seemed, up until yesterday, Rabelo was always the battery mate of Badenhop and Miller – which seems very logical because he has seen these two young pitchers the most coming up with them in the Tigers system. I think the Fish are trying to get the most value out Rabelo because as of now the trade has not panned out as anticipated. Miller has struggled and Maybin, though statistically is not doing too bad, is striking out too much and neve rmade the opening day roster. Catcher seems to be the position that may be somewhat interchangable as the Marlins get so much offensive production from the top of the order that they sacrifice the catchers bat. I personally love Matty. His successful hit and run with Gonzo, i believe it was in the sixth, shows how much control he has of his stick. Though Rabelo hasn’t blown anybodies socks off as of yet I think the Fish might go with something like this:

Rabelo catches Badenhop, Miller
Treanor catches Olsen and Nolasco
I see Hendrikson being the lone man out but it seems of late that Rabelo has been behind the plate – and hell, buddy is 5-1

if it aint broke…

by FriedFish on May 5, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Trade

I fully believe theyre just trying to justify the terms of the trade to the public. The knowledgeable baseball fan realizes that maybin and miller need to be in the minors, and thus are willing to wait on the development of those two. To me, Rabelo and Treanor both are subpar catchers at least offensively. While the stats may be in favor of Treanor, i just don’t think there is that much to justify starting one over the other and it’s 6 of one and half a dozen the other regardless.
I especially don’t feel confident with Treanor at the plate just yet (though even less so with Rabelo), and I think management doesnt either seeing as how they are both hidden at the bottom of the order.

by GMFB on May 5, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Agreed

I also see it as trade justification just as Miller still being in a Marlins uniform despite never having his ERA fall below 7 in 7 starts is also trade justification.

Rabelo truly is the only one of the 6 that is both in the majors and also performing halfway decently.

We all have seen that Miller needs more time in the minors as his struggles at the major league level are well documented. I can name about 4 more pitchers around the majors that have struggled like Miller and have already been sent back down to the minors in just half the starts Miller has made (Liriano is the first name on that list). However, since Miller was one of the “big two” in the trade, he will probably have to get hurt before he gets removed from the rotation; for better or worse.

Speaking of the “big two”, Maybin is still trying to learn how to hit breaking pitches. He had his best game at the plate in about a month today but he still needs more time in the minors so it may be a while before he can represent the trade at the major league level.

Badenhop is performing like you would expect from a rookie; he struggles at times but also has shown potential.

As for the other two, Trahern has spent much of April on the DL. He started yesterday and gave up 9 earned in 2.2 IP in AAA. He really needs some work or he could quickly fall into the same category as Barone and Seddon.

De La Cruz is starting in AAA and has either been red hot or ice cold, nothing in between. He has had some great starts and some downright horrible starts. He should probably be pitching in relief but for some reason, the team has him starting.

by mbaamin08 on May 5, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs