Chum Bucket

by craig on Dec 4, 2007 8:56 AM EST in News and Rumors

It's time for the daily Chum Bucket and whining about why the Marlins are not being able to move their most talented hitter quick enough.

I must admit, yesterday was a first. My original Chum Bucket post caused some members of a Dodgers message board to take exception and to give me a very special nickname, which decorum prohibits me from repeating. Then Fishcrazy made his post and that was all one of the Blue faithful could stand. Priceless.

I didn't even know it was possible to upset a Dodger fan. But apparently you can if you do everything just right and get a little help from your friends.

Speaking of the Dodgers indications are they have all but pulled out of the Andruw jones, Rowand and Cabrera sweepstakes. However, this could just be posturing. But let's say it isn't, I'm little confused about how they are going to keep pace in the West if they don't try to improve. Of course, it may be the case that Jones, Rowand and/or Cabrera may not be the pieces they are looking for. But one would think they should do something and who knows, may be they will later.

Oh, one last thing before turning today's Chum Bucket over to you. From listening to XM Radio and reading accounts of the first day of the Winter Meetings -- everyone and I mean everyone, hates it when the meetings are held in Nashville. Don't know why, but they do.

Which seems strange to me because on Friday when a GM from another team was interviewed, he couldn't even remember where last year's meetings were held. He never left the motel. Maybe the room service food sucks in Nashville -- it's a guess.

Chum Bucket is good to go. So feel free in cheering (whining) for your favorite Marlin to be traded. :-)

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Unless it is all just posturing,

it seems Colletti is content to rely on improvement from his young players or is looking elsewhere, such as going after Bedard. There has been so little buzz regarding the Dodgers lately in the Cabrera Derby, it makes you think they have all but pulled out. I find it strange (if the reports are accurate) that the Marlins were insisting on at least Kemp/Kershaw/Loney from the Dodgers, and would not budge, but were on the verge of accepting an Angels package which, with the exception of Kendrick, including lesser quality pieces IMO. But, hey, what do I know. I'm not paid to evaluate baseball talent for a living. In Beinfest I trust :)

by Sashimi on Dec 4, 2007 11:20 AM EST reply actions

Tigers want both cabrera and willis

Florida could get their two best prospects. Link Below:

http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/04/nashville-finally-going-to-heat-up/

by em3 on Dec 4, 2007 12:13 PM EST reply actions

Wow

That would be interesting. Trading the two faces of the franchise in one fell swoop. It would make some sense if the Marlins could also pick up a decent third baseman in the deal (or second baseman if they think Uggla can make the move to third--an idea I'm not too crazy about).

by Sashimi on Dec 4, 2007 12:22 PM EST up reply actions

Yowza.

Obviously without knowing more details you can't say if it makes sense, but I've got a huge mancrush on Maybin. Seriously, when I went to Pedro's first rehab start in St. Lucie last summer, I took videos of every Pedro/Maybin at-bat.

There's got to be more involved, but suffice to say, in my opinion Maybin is the best single player involved in these rumors, better than Kershaw, better than Kendrick.

by dan 2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 12:26 PM EST up reply actions

Sidebar says...

a) Miggy is not involved.
b) Maybin is untouchable.
c) Miller is basically untouchable.

So that would mean... Dontrelle for PTBNL? Just as exciting!

by dan 2.0 on Dec 4, 2007 1:13 PM EST up reply actions

Winter Meetings

I think they hate Nashville because the Hotel is so big. People have a hard time trying to bump into the people they want to see. Plus I imagine something like Hawaii or New Orleans would be more fun.

Also, it's amusing to look at the Cabrera trade offers from both sides. Each side has items of tremendous value, and teams and fans seem to usually overvalue their own. Also, I think some teams are trying to come in low with their offer because they think the Marlins have to move him. I figure the Marlins could hold onto him for as much as another whole season if need be, but they really have to move him after the 2008 season if they can't afford to sign him long term.

If there is a deal reached, I'm sure it will be reasonably fair to both sides no matter how much the fan bases complain about it.

by elricsi on Dec 4, 2007 12:34 PM EST reply actions

Hahaha!

OMG, that Dodger fan was great...I had no idea my comment had even generated any kind of response (thanks to not having internet access at home these days).

In case DodgerBob (or whatever his name was) is still around, your GM is a jackhole not because of what he will or won't trade, but because he is PUBLICLY WHINING THROUGH THE MEDIA. Got it? If Cabrera's too expensive, then don't do the deal. Period. But to turn around and complain in the newspapers that the Mean Ol' Marlins won't play fair is embarrassing. Have some dignity, Colletti!

And that's why your GM is a jackhole.

by Fishcrazy on Dec 4, 2007 12:49 PM EST reply actions