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A quick study in contrast at the trade deadline

Or... "why we should love our owndership."

Today was the deadline for trades in the MLB, in case you hadn't heard.  Looks like many teams were busy, while others (like the Florida Marlins) were relatively quiet.

Why the lack of activity on the part of the Fish?  It's because we're doing nearly everything right, and there is no need to change our strategy at this point.  Now, compare that to the Phillies.

Star-divide

They've had to gut their team, even though they are ahead of us in the standings.  By being conservative this year, and knowing ourselves, we are not "buyers" or "sellers" but instead in the position of accepting a trade if it's in our favor, but not having to force one to save money or suddenly fill a hole to compete.  

These guys do a great job, even if they infuriate me.  

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How has our leadership done in regards to player personnel.
They Stink
4 votes
They should win executives of the year.
12 votes
I guess they dont' quite stinl, but it's not like they should win executives of the year or anything.
2 votes

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I'm completely with you
Executive of the year is an understatement. The job they've done this year is a case study in how to properly run a major league baseball team. They have done everything I would have done, and more. I LOVE LARRY BEINFEST.
I can't believe Mike doesn't remember Ocala - he was having a GREAT time!

by jrfelix on Jul 31, 2006 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's be clear...
When I vote "exec of the year" in the poll above I am speaking strictly of Beinfest and those who work under him, not those who put the gun to his head and made him cut down to next to nothing.  Under that gun Beinfest did a near-miraculous job getting Nolasco, Jacobs, HanRam, Uggla and Sanchez (just to name those who've had big-league impact so far).
The Kids Are Alright. More Often Than They Used To Be.

by Dr F on Jul 31, 2006 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marlin GM's . .
have done a damn good job throughout franchise history.  Dombroski put together the 97 team and, when forced to gut it, began to build some of the pieces of the 03 team.  Beinfest has done a fantastic job as well.

These guys get it.  The reality of baseball economics is that all but a handful of teams have windows in which to accomplish their goals.  The Marlin window ran from 03-05 and then it was time to start again.  What's the point of winning 70-80 games every year and getting nowhere?  Gut the team, get everything you can, and build up to a new window.

by Double B on Jul 31, 2006 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not impressed
should have moved Borowski

by Maverick on Jul 31, 2006 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For what?
What offers were they getting on him?
The Kids Are Alright. More Often Than They Used To Be.

by Dr F on Jul 31, 2006 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree with Doc F
Why move him for nothing? 1) It concedes we're out of the race. And 2) just like the Nats realized, its smarter to take the draft picks with free agents to be, rather than trade them just for whats out there.

oh, and just for fun, can you kids tell me whats missing from this ESPN poll:

10) Which team will win the National League pennant?

    Astros
    Brewers
    Cardinals
    Diamondbacks
    Dodgers
    Giants
    Mets
    Padres
    Phillies
    Reds
    Rockies

Fuck ESPN. Fuck them long and hard.

I can't believe Mike doesn't remember Ocala - he was having a GREAT time!

by jrfelix on Jul 31, 2006 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

asdf
The Braves aren't on there either.

by Double B on Jul 31, 2006 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A different angle on trade deadline
The Mets had to go get Roberto Hernandez today at least in part because Duaner Sanchez got a separated shoulder in a taxicab accident in Miami.

Think about this.  Have the Marlins really been using this potential advantage against their opponents?? ;-)

Or another, less felonious angle; in that TWIB feature on Saturday, several of the Guppies were seen hitting the town after a day game, in a limo.  At first one might think "how hoity-toity" or some such; Logan Kensing, Josh Johnson et al don't seem like limo types.  But today's news makes one think "smart move, guys; keep that limo driver on retainer."  Limos for the entire roster, just don't get in a taxi.  

The Kids Are Alright. More Often Than They Used To Be.

by Dr F on Jul 31, 2006 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Borowski
Actually some pretty sound comment on why Borowski is not so likely to leave even in August.  Oddly enough, found on espn.com from Jerry Crasnick:

Quote:

The Marlins have no compelling reason to move Borowski. He's payroll-friendly at $327,000 plus $1 million in incentives, and he's a great late-inning security blanket for Florida's dynamic young rotation.

Larry Beinfest and his group have done a phenomenal job of building a competitive club on a $14 million payroll. The last thing they want to do is throw the ninth inning into disarray in August and September and resurrect the first month of the season, when the Marlins blew a ton of leads.

Still, Borowski could be a nice fit for a contender looking for a solid setup man. He's a tough-minded veteran who wouldn't be fazed by the prospect of pitching in a race. That's why the Marlins won't move him unless they can get something of long-term value in return.

"We love Joe," said Dan Jennings, Florida's vice president of player personnel. "We don't look at him as just an older guy on a young club. He's very valuable to us and what we're doing. He keeps the pressure off the kids at the end of the game."

The Kids Are Alright. More Often Than They Used To Be.

by Dr F on Aug 1, 2006 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As much as I think . .
Joe sucks balls, the legitimate point is "who else is there?"  I'd like to see Tank get more opportunities going forward, but the rest of the pen is a throwaway.

by Double B on Aug 1, 2006 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shakespease on baseball at the deadline....
Niether a buyer nor a seller be.
Baseball > Med School

by fishfan24 on Aug 1, 2006 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heheheh
I can't believe Mike doesn't remember Ocala - he was having a GREAT time!

by jrfelix on Aug 1, 2006 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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