Open thread and Ichthyomancy: Marlins at Phillies (9/10)

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 8:34 AM EDT in News and Rumors

We get what looks like another good pitching matchup tonight (7:05) with Jason Vargas and Brett Myers. This is a borderline must-win game for the Marlins. Actually, last night's game was much the same.

~~Nuke LaLoosh~~ A.J. Burnett was a huge disappointment last night. After the game McKeon expressed his disappointment in Burnett's continued poor performance. When asked whether Burnett would make his next scheduled start (on Wednesday in Houston against Roger Clemens), McKeon was non-commital. I'm not sure who'd they start in place of Burnett, but all things considered, it's not very positive. Maybe we'll feel better about things after tonight's game.

It's once again time for ichthyomancy. If you've been playing all season, please make your picks today. If you've never played before - start today. It doesn't cost anything, it's fun, and it's free.

Here's today's ichthyomancy pick table:

Person	Player	Attendance	AAB
Carolina	Vargas	33,900	Cabrera: 2 Yard!
Colombo259
Craig
Danielfred1235	Hermida	34,000	Didn't happen
Dex
Double B	SP
Fishfan24	Cabrera	30,024	SP: No hitter
Jsprt05	Cabrera	34,789	Myers: 4 IP
Seamusfurr
StrandedX02	Delgado	33,427	Delgado: 5 R 5th
Wiggins	Delgado	36,456	Delgado: 6 RBI

Make your picks and discuss...

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Picks

Frosty Bill.

34,000.

Wiggins: Sucks. And if that doesn't count, the number of runs Vargas allows is twice the number of hits he gets.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 12:26 PM EDT reply actions

Way to go out on a limb with that pick...

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't Knock It

You were allowed to use it earlier in the season, and it almost got Craig some Comment of the Month honors. :-P

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Picks

Cabrera
34,789
Myers goes 4 innings or less

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 12:39 PM EDT reply actions

Picks.

Delgado
36,456
Danielle gets her nails done during the fourth inning. If that doesn't work - Delgado has 6 RBI.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 1:07 PM EDT reply actions

Danni

make sure you get your pedicure too

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Why Bother?

I don't need pedicured toenails to kick your ass. Punk.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

someone needs to simmer down now

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I Already...

... told Wiggins to simmadown. He didn't listen. Not my problem.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Bitter Is A Look...

... that simply doesn't suit you. Try something different. ;-)

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions

No really -

Bitter isn't a look for me - it's a way of life!

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Somehow

I'm not surprised.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Wiggins

I think its that time of the month for Danni

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Wiggins

I think it's that time of DAY for Josephina.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Mr. Frederick

im gonna need to ask you to calm down

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Girls!

You are BOTH pretty.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions

zippit Johnna

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Really?

You really think so? *blush*

Jerk. You suck.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Ms. Frieden

Don't make me use force to calm you down.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions

hey Dan

lets talk about baseball now

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions

hey Joe

Were we ever talking about anything else? ;-)

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Picks

All bitterness aside from someone who's had plenty of reason to be bitter. (By the way, did anyone take a look at the boxscore of the Duke game today? 33 total yards...and yes, that's in the WHOLE GAME!)

Delgado
33,427
Marlins have a 5-run 5th.

Cause all we know is falling...

by StrandedX02 on Sep 10, 2005 4:03 PM EDT reply actions

Houston

The matchups for the Houston series are out, as per today's official game notes:
Monday: Willis vs. Backe.
Tuesday: Beckett vs. Rodriguez.
Wednesday: Burnett vs. Clemens.
Thursday: Vargas vs. Pettitte.
I definitely think the first two games are the most winnable, what with A.J. pitching the way he has, Roger pitching the way HE has, and Vargas still kinda cutting his teeth.

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 4:13 PM EDT reply actions

picks

Vargas
33,900
Cabrera goes yard twice.

by Carolina on Sep 10, 2005 4:36 PM EDT reply actions

pix

Cabrera
35,000
Combined 7 GIDP

"I'm not as deep and complicated as people think." -Mike Tyson

by seamusfurr on Sep 10, 2005 5:47 PM EDT reply actions

Lineups Posted

Marlins:
2B Castillo
RF Hermida
3B Cabrera
1B Delgado
LF Conine
SS Easley
CF Pierre
C Treanor
P Vargas

Phillies:
SS Rollins
CF Michaels
RF Abreu
LF Burrell
2B Utley
3B Bell
1B Howard
C Lieberthal
P Myers

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 6:10 PM EDT reply actions

Im not suprised that Jack took Carcion out

of the lineup and I think Hermida deserves to be in there because of the potential and versatility he brings. Also, Conine has been hot lately going 3 for 5 last nite.

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions

On MLB.TV...

... I think I just heard Rich go, "Hello!" and then Tommy go, "We STILL have 10 minutes!" ... and someone just went in a heavy British accent, "A little guhl..." (Or at least, I hope those were Rich and Tommy. If they weren't, then the Phillies announcers sound JUST like Rich and Tommy.)

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 7:04 PM EDT reply actions

I Must Say...

This candid look at Rich and Tommy as they get ready for the broadcast is QUITE funny. Tommy just went "Pollo Tropical!" And the preview of what Rich is gonna say in the opening collage was good too. :-D

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow

That sounds cool. I wish I'd heard this.

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Gotta Love...

... the broadcasts on Pax/I. :-D

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions

True

They're always weird.

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Attendance Picks

30,024 for the rest of the Phillies series.

by fishfan24 on Sep 10, 2005 7:15 PM EDT reply actions

Anyone else?

Watching FSU - Citadel. The Noles are up 3-0 after the first quarter. The Citadel is holding their own. I feel ill.

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Why does it feel like

the Phillies have the Marlins number nad we will be swept?

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 7:55 PM EDT reply actions

and*

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Because

you are a pessimistic jerk? Is that it?

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Not how I wanted it to happen

It's a shame to see Johnson so early.

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 8:21 PM EDT reply actions

Vargas has had trouble

keeping his pitch count low in every start except one (his CG)

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions

An idea

Maybe they should keep him separated from Burnett

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Troubling

In Jason Vargas' 9 starts this year (including tonight) he has thrown 851 pitches in 48 1/3 IP.

This is about 17 pitches/IP....not very good.

Thats 152 pitches/9 IP!!!

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

Nice work

Apparently he hasn't gotten the memo about pitching to early contact.

I wonder what the plan is with him. If they didn't need him for the playoff push, I'm sure they'd shut him down and prepare him to do some work in the Caribbean this winter on throwing fewer pitches.

This is not encouraging for a guy who's supposed to be our #4 starter next year.

by mike42 on Sep 10, 2005 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Pierre

RBI machine

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 8:57 PM EDT reply actions

Jsprt05

that was one close AAB pick. Myers 4.1

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 8:58 PM EDT reply actions

Three more runs this inning

and stranded gets his.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Jinxed it

sorry.

Man, I suck.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions

thanks craig

oo so close

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

True

unfortunately it didn't happen

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Going out on a limb

Randy ain't on tonight

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:16 PM EDT reply actions

Huh

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:36 PM EDT reply actions

Huh?

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

We need Pierre

RBI Machine to make an appearance again!

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:43 PM EDT reply actions

Or....

Not.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

They were scared of him

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions

That must have been it

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Got the lead back

But Loduca's hurting...

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:48 PM EDT reply actions

Encarnacion you bastard

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

What a gutsy PH

I can't believe they are going to leave him in the game and catch.

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions

The hammer's ready, right?

Jack is crazy.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions

As far as I know

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions

GIDyuP!

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 9:55 PM EDT reply actions

Picked him off

Yea!

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:14 PM EDT reply actions

That was pretty.

Now he just needs to do it again...

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions

or not

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions

It's never easy

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:18 PM EDT reply actions

Jones

Has come through before - we have to hope he'll come through again.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions

TJ....you monster

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 10, 2005 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Todd Jones!

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:22 PM EDT reply actions

Whew.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 10:22 PM EDT reply actions

Todd Jones

gets the Save!

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:39 PM EDT reply actions

I want to bear

Todd Jones' children.

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll deliver it if you can wait a few years...

by fishfan24 on Sep 10, 2005 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions

It's a deal.

And with that - I say goodnight. Early morning tomorrow, and I was up WAY too late last night...

by wiggins on Sep 10, 2005 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Attendance

40,479

by craig on Sep 10, 2005 10:41 PM EDT reply actions

I <3 Todd Jones

Unlike man of our relief pitchers, he DOES NOT SUCK... like at all.

by fishfan24 on Sep 10, 2005 10:45 PM EDT reply actions

Fear the Redneck.

Like the Mig, he doesn't suck.

BTW, can anybody help me out? I'm trying to do my scorecard for the game right now (I was out at a play b/c... well, b/c the Phils got out to an early lead and I was being pessimistic, to be honest. Anywho, the roster on the official website doesn't list a number for Johnson. What number was he wearing?

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions

#55

Cause all we know is falling...

by StrandedX02 on Sep 10, 2005 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks!

You can fool some of the people all the time... and those are the ones to concentrate on.

by danielfred1235 on Sep 10, 2005 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Not to say Jack will do this or anything,

but how about starting Josh Johnson instead of Vargas on Thursday?

Francouer who?

by Jsprtold on Sep 11, 2005 12:10 AM EDT reply actions

I like the bravery of the idea

But I'm not sure his first start should be in such a crucial game, when we don't know how he'll do. I mean, they're all important from here on out, but the 'Stros series is really really really important.

What do you think?

by fishfan24 on Sep 11, 2005 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Points

Once again everyone underestimated the attendance (looks like the folks in Philly like a playoff chase). Wiggins had the highest estimate, so he gets the point (the crowd was 40,479).

Wiggins and Stranded get a point for Delgado. Conine, Johnson, Jones, and LoDuca were also worthy of point consideration for last night's win.

by mike42 on Sep 11, 2005 10:13 AM EDT reply actions