Open Thread and Ichthyomancy: Rockies at Marlins (5/7)

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:09 AM EDT in News and Rumors

TIME: 6:05 @ Joe Robbie Stadium

ROCKIES PROBABLE: MARLINS PROBABLE:

Shawn Chacon (1-1, 3.27) Josh Beckett (4-2, 2.57)

I'll be back at the ballpark tonight, and I have to run some errands and do some things around town today, so I'm posting this early.

Craig is still in charge again tonight.

In tonight's Ichthyomancy, Craig took LoDuca. I'm going to take Lowell. Pick whoever you want - we'll even award bonus points for guessing the attendance - but you have to be within 250 people of what they announce (player picks need to be made before the game starts, attendance can be estimated within the first hour after the first pitch, so you can size up the crowd a little, so long as they don't announce it by then).

Make your picks and discuss...

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Giveaway

Oh - and before I forget, they're giving away fishing lures tonight - complete with hooks - to the first 12,500 fans. While this will certainly help me with ichthyomancy going forward, it could also lead to a very memorable scene if something incites the crowd and everyone throws them onto the field (like happened at a Dodger game a few years back on bat or ball day).

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:52 AM EDT reply actions

Fishing Lure

Assuming you don't indiscriminately chunk you lure on the field, I would like to see a picture of the "Josh Beckett fishing lure". If you don't mind, please sir.

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Lure

Here's a picture of the lure (not a pic I took, but this is what it looks like).

Unfortunately they didn't give them out until after the game. Had they been passed out earlier I'm pretty sure Preston Wilson would have been covered with them during the play where he dropped the ball on the warning track. Everyone was all over him again tonight...

Anyways, the lure is pretty cool. It seems like something you could really fish with (although I haven't fished in a long, long time). It has two sets of hooks with three hooks at each end (so there are six sharp points in total - sorry for the horrific description).

There's a Marlins logo on one side with a Beckett "autograph" (and it timed out nicely that Josh started on the day of his giveaway). The other side has a "Doctors Hospital" logo.

Kind of an odd giveaway, but a pretty nice one.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks

the lure is pretty cool

by craig on May 7, 2005 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Quick question

In the standings chart what does the "RA" and "RS" mean?

by FlaMarlinFan on May 7, 2005 11:14 AM EDT reply actions

RS/RA

Runs scored and runs allowed.

I think tomorrow or the day after I'll have a link to a post over at Beyond the Boxscore that will explain how you can use those two numbers, over the long haul, to predict a team's record. While the sample size is small so far, the Marlins are underperforming what you'd normally expect (since they're scoring a lot of runs and giving up relatively very few.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions

My pick -

These fishguts tell me that Pierre will have an amazing night against his former team.

Icthyomancy is dirty work. Now I need to take a chemical shower...

by wiggins on May 7, 2005 11:56 AM EDT reply actions

I see...

the Rockies are going to employ the "get lucky" defense in the 1st

by craig on May 7, 2005 6:25 PM EDT reply actions

Damn too late

I know I got this in too late... I was expecting a 7:35 first pitch. I was going tith Beckett. After seeing the Rockies last night I'm taking the our starting pitcher all weekend.

Roger

by fishfan24 on May 7, 2005 7:12 PM EDT reply actions

That's...

probably a very good strategy.

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Game Note

The Rockies pitchers lead the Majors in walks

I'm watching FSN Rocky Mountain

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:15 PM EDT reply actions

Chacon

has thrown 71 pitches through 4

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:21 PM EDT reply actions

argh

I thought I'd be able to listen to the Spanish broadcast since my friend's got high speed internet in her dorm, but she's behind this stubborn firewall and I can't figure out how to get around it.

by Carolina on May 7, 2005 7:29 PM EDT reply actions

Bummer...

when your security system keeps you out.

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Opponents...

of the Rockies have attempted 25 stolen bases this year, the Rockies have caught 1.

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

Castillo

That Luis was able to steal tonight was amazing, he limped all over the field and often kneeled down between pitches. He's clearly slowed by whatever the hip problem is.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions

The Marlins...

are into the vaunted Rockies bullpen

by craig on May 7, 2005 7:56 PM EDT reply actions

Chacon

finished the game with 9 walks, a career high and the second most by a Rockies pitcher in a game. His ERA will go down after today's performance.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:01 PM EDT reply actions

Mike...

they just showed your seats on FSN Rocky Mountain.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:06 PM EDT reply actions

Really?

I figured there might have been a glimpse of us on the ball that Preston Wilson dropped on the track. I was in a gray Marlins shirt. My "friend" was in a white shirt (I'm being consciously vague about who I attend the games with to frustrate some of the lurkers :-p ). We were mostly surrounded by kids.

Next time I'll think ahead to give the camera the finger or something. Eventually I'm going to get thrown out from those seats for leaning over the railing or something. It's too tempting.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Beckett...

has thrown 96 pitches through 7

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

The...

standing O's for Conine are in my mind, excellent.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

Loud

It was like the crowd was a full house tonight when he came in to pinch hit.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Speaking of Bullpens

Apparently the Rockies are now into the vaunted Marlin pen as well.

by DoubleB on May 7, 2005 8:32 PM EDT reply actions

Why yes...

they are

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions

And...

they have a run to show for it.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Mota

threw on the side today and is believed to be about 10 days away.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:33 PM EDT reply actions

Could be

If he comes back at 100%, this could be a really good thing in the sense that it will be nearly two months into the season and he'll essentially be fresh.

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Todd Jones

was solid in the 9th to get the save.

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:45 PM EDT reply actions

Attendance

I'm going the guess the attendance is going to be about....oh...let's say 26,218

by craig on May 7, 2005 8:55 PM EDT reply actions

No credit

Since the game was over by the time you made this "guess" I'm not awarding any credit, although you were exactly on (and I was disappointed about the small Saturday night crowd).

Actually, I should deduct points for this guess... but I won't. :-)

by mike42 on May 7, 2005 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Icthyomancy

Here is the recap of the ones in play for today's game:

AB R H RBI BB S SF
Lowell 2 0 0 0 2 0 0

Pierre 3 0 0 0 2 0 0

Lo Duca 2 0 0 1 0 1 1

IP H R ER BB K ERA

Beckett* 7 5 0 0 1 6 0.00

* if allowed, also had a sacrifice

by craig on May 7, 2005 9:12 PM EDT reply actions

Credit

Beckett was the "official" player of the game tonight, at least as per the stadium announcer. I think only FishFan24 had him, and he picked him late, so you only get 1/2 credit.

No one else gets any credit tonight - even Carolina who had a stealth (email) pick of Pierre.